SU/MSU Experiments Buddy Group-June 09

I don't know if this is right but...

If I see a lot that are going very straight I feel like those are Y's.  Kinda like an airplane across the sky. The X's to me seem to be more jerky and not as fast. It's funny, you'll see them bump into something and then try to go after it sometimes..  I guess it's not really size that we want to look for....

In my DHs samples I see a lot of circle swimmers. I just think that can not be x swimmers, because I have 3 ( 5 ) sons *LOL*

 

I think i read somewhere that x swimmers have very long tails, and I deff see that some of them have loooooooooooong tails

Brygger:

How do you see if it is a good sort ?

 

How can you see the difference between x and y swimmers ?

 

The X`s go in circles.... 

This is from Utube - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abZeru6Zqzs&feature=related

Also check out these threads they are loaded with the topic just be sure to scroll through the whole thread ...

http://www.in-gender.com/cs/forums/p/70854/656801.aspx#656801

http://www.in-gender.com/cs/forums/p/40408/371741.aspx#371741

Personally I can't tell them apart. If there is some in the EW and some in the sample I just have to have faith it worked!

Chachamama:

Well, I finally dragged out all the equipment tonight to give SU a try and it was horrible..  I couldn't find the sperm with the microscope AT ALL.  I don't have a color wheel - any idea what to use instead?

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this but are you putting a slide cover on top of the slide and sample? If you don't put a slide cover on top then you won't see any sperms. Good luck!!!

Chachamama:

I'm totally clueless when it comes to trying to put the egg-white on top.  I have boxed egg white that has a pH of 9 which I'm assuming is what I want.  It's pretty much the same color as the sperm so I have no clue if it floated or not.  I think I put it in way too quickly too.. any tips for that?

I use regular egg whites not the boxed. You can see a difference in color with them. I found the boxed egg whites to be too watery and it always mixed. I also use a mesh to get the egg white to stay on top of the sperm.

Don't get overwhelmed, you will figure it out, I promise!

Congrats Erin!!! That is awesome!!!

Hi guys! I have been struggling for quite sometime as you might have guessed with my last e-mail. I am still having a lot of difficulties from the miscarriage a month and a half ago but I am trying to move forward anyway. So I want to try and focus on my next attempt and I would so appreciate any help you lovely ladies could offer. I have been away so long and don't know if I have missed any new info. So if you wouldn't mind looking over my plan I would be very grateful.

-Girl diet for 6 weeks (not as strict as suggested because I am still nursing). Cut out caffeine, watch salt and potassium intake add lots of dairy, low fat, low protein.

-Calcium: 1260mg, Mag: 600mg, Cranberry: from AF-O, baby asprin: 81mg AF-O, Zinc: 50 mg, B6: 100mg, folic acid: 450mcg, B12: 150 mcg, Peppermint tea from AF-O, Crystal light from AF-O

DH: Cal, mag, B6, B12, low salt and potassium, low fat, low protein, licorice root, lots of dairy (can't do cranberry due to stomach ulcer). DH has ph of 7-7.5 naturally (thankfully).

Dh wears boxer briefs. Dh no release from my AF- 0+12 (14 days) then he takes Hot tub and I get sample:

-Find 0+12 using opks, basal temp, cm and cervical position (when cm goes from ewcm to creamy and cervix gets hard it's 0+12) 

-Use replens (or rephresh depending on my Ph. If Ph higher than 5 use replens) every other day from end of AF-O+12

-Douch with 7% vinegar/calcium 1 hour before insertion of diva cup. 

-Take Sudafed 1 hour before attempt

- Get sample, keep it warm. Have egg white, test tubes and pipets in incubator to keep warm. Make sure ew is over 9 in ph. Put sample in tt put mesh on top so it is touching sample, put mixed ew on top of that. 

How many people are using the little yellow incubator that was recomended onthis sight? How are you guys keeping the temp even in it and constant? It seems to be so much hotter right next to the light bulb and I can't seem to keep the temp of my samples even (I usually have more than one sample in the incubator at one time). Any suggestions?

Put in incubator at 45% angle for 1 hour. Repeat with more samples for mutliple attempts.

After hour is up take EW off and thin layer under it and discard, put rest in Diva cup with enough lime to drop it to a ph of 4-5. Insert and check every half hour, adding more lime if necessary. I actually found that I didn't need to check it very often, my ph and the ph in the cup stayed really low. Anyone else find this?

-After 4 hours take Diva cup out and put in lime tampon (50/50). With my attempt that resulted in my last pregnancy I left Diva cup in all night. What do you think of that? My ph was still low in the morning and so was the ph in the diva cup.

 -Negative ion generator, humidifiers, vaporizers and salt lamps.

How does that look  . . did I miss anything?

BabyBobadoo:

Maybe try putting a piece of hair over the slide so you can focus on that then, take it away and look at the slide beneath

 

great tip!

rachel idris:

How many people are using the little yellow incubator that was recomended onthis sight? How are you guys keeping the temp even in it and constant? It seems to be so much hotter right next to the light bulb and I can't seem to keep the temp of my samples even (I usually have more than one sample in the incubator at one time). Any suggestions?

After hour is up take EW off and thin layer under it and discard, put rest in Diva cup with enough lime to drop it to a ph of 4-5. Insert and check every half hour, adding more lime if necessary. I actually found that I didn't need to check it very often, my ph and the ph in the cup stayed really low. Anyone else find this?

-After 4 hours take Diva cup out and put in lime tampon (50/50). With my attempt that resulted in my last pregnancy I left Diva cup in all night. What do you think of that? My ph was still low in the morning and so was the ph in the diva cup.

Rach - I think this sounds great and am so happy you're preparing!! I too have the yellow incubator and just shift the top a little to adjust the temp. but I only have one sample going so I don't know if that would be harder with more. I read someone would unplug it when it got to hot so I'm going to try that for my next attempt and see if it works.

I used the Diva for my last attempt too and my pH stayed low. As far as the lime tampon, geez, I don't know. You were able to get pregnant last time without it and you're pH stayed low.... that's such a toughy. I think if you felt comfortable not doing it last time, why not?

AF arrived today... as expected because of that stupid lime. Boy, did I learn my lesson. On to Round #2.

GL ladies!!!!!!

I think it all sounds great.   One thing I noticed, you can take baby aspirin through to next AF instead of stopping at O.  I just did my attempt last night and used the Diva cup for the first time. I actually have to do SD instead of SU, but hopefully all is well.  My pH stayed low throughout but after 4 hours I did do the lime tampon so I wouldn't worry about it...There was some splime I noticed in the Diva cup when I went to check pH-is this normal?  Oh and just one more thought, is it 4 hours after doing TBM or after first douche following TBM?

I use the yellow incubator, unplugging it is a great idea.  I found it stayed a little too close to 100 for my comfort but would change just by shifting the top over.  I don't use the wire mesh that comes with it.  I found I get a good 45 degree angle just angling the test tube off the bottom.  Are your layers staying pretty separated or do the boundaries start to blend some?

Good luck! 

 

Thanks guys! I really appreciate your opinions. My problem with the incubator is that the thermometer will say 99 but it seems to be cooler on the farthest side of the incubator where the top of the test tube is propped and hotter near the thermometer where the bottom of the test tube is close to.  Not sure how to remedy that.

As for the asprin I am taking it all cycle not sure what I was talkig about .

Annika- the slime left in the Diva cup is normal. Not all of splime is sperm, it has a lot of other fluids too that stay behind. I also believe it is 4 hours after tbm.

My problem is that all my attempts are at night so staying up for 4 hours is not an option when I take care of 2 young kids during the day and desperatly need that sleep. I found leaving the diva in all night kept my ph low so I think I will stick with that. It has all the lime juice mixed in with the splime so I am thinking it will be fine. Thank you guys for your thoughts.

Anyone else have any thoughts on my plan?

rachel idris:

Anyone else have any thoughts on my plan?

I think your plan looks great.  I think that huge factor for all of us is to just relax. I know that I am having a hard time doing that too.  I'm in my fertile week and today will be my 2 day cut off.  I was quite silly on Saturday and drank a little too much (I think that the huge factor was that I hadn't had enough food to eat)...I'm so frustrated with myself because I was suppose to do a SU that day since it was the beginning of my fertile time.  Oh well.  We ended up doing 2 yesterday and will do 1 more tonight. My O+12 will be sometime late on Wednesday, I believe.  I won't be on here much as I'm trying to stay away from the ions. 

I wish everyone luck who is attempting soon!  May we all have some baby dust! 

Thanks Purpledream. Good luck to you girl. I am glad you are staying away from the computer! I will keep my fingers crossed for you.

Hi ladies...Good luck PD...good luck Rach!!! I too am doing a cut-off this month and my 0+12!!!! My ph is super low right now and my first attempt will be in 3-4 days!!!  I think it will raise up by then!!!  I think this is the month....I really do.  My left side is sore like it usually is suppose to be before I O...I am in pain!!!  Last month...not so much!!  I almost thought I was not going to O...which never has happened....but I did!!!  I feel like I've got some good eggs coming!!!!!  So, anyhow I just wanted to update you all as I too am staying away from the computer!!!  AND CL!!!  Ha ha!!  I think this is going to be a good month!!!  I am predicting a St.Patty's baby girl!!   She will be my lucky family member #7(including me and hubby) !!!!  My favorite # is 7...so maybe!!  Baby Dust to all of you lovely ladies.....and pink dust to those of us wanting PINK too!!!!!  And I will throw all my blue dust power to those TTC blue!!!  Oh ya...this week...I cut my cup of coffee out and switched it with MORE peppermint tea....I also found that replens works GREAT!!!!  My egg ares ph of 9.2 and I am excited about doing cut-offs this month!!!  We shall see.....I am going to also use the Diva cup, but does anyone know how to prevent it from getting too high in the V?  Last month I thought I was going to have to go to the ER to get it out!!!  I panicked a bit, but luckily I have had at least 2 vaginal births....I had to push...like labor to get that thing out!!!!   Maybe I panicked for no reason, but it scared me!!!!

Thank you so much for the welcome,  PD, Luv4boys and maybe baby! I have been gone and have a lot of catching up to do!! Wish I had a laptop!

PD,

I still get scared too----I want a baby daughter so badly, but I just try to focus on the fact that TTC is the only way to bring her to me and that all babies bring so much love and open our world no matter who they are! Some days I am stronger than others! It is a hard journey...

I am actually waiting to get AF anyday so I am on the next round....time to get cracking with all the preps again...

Good luck ladies!