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TTC a girl -Extreme Gender Swaying *3 methods- GDC, SU, and TBM

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This is Extreme Gender Swaying for ttc a girl.  Shawell made this with help from me from the baby center board.  PLEASE NOTE!  If you need a guarantee of a girl you NEED to do high tech. 

There are 3 methods for ttc a girl with extreme gender swaying: Turkey Baster Method (TBM), Swim Up (SU) and Gradient Density Centrifuge (GDC).  All should be done with o+12.  GDC is always done with SU, and should be done with TBM and o+12.  SU is done with TBM at o+12.  The abbreviations for these would look like this:  GDC/SU/TBM, SU/TBM and just TBM.  All methods need to also incorporate diet, supplements, pH, ions and the rest of the stuff found in the swaying forum.

 

 **When sucking up the little spermies and "implanting" them into the V, you need to do this slowly.  Not just a quick squirt.  The reasoning is that the force will break the tails off the sperm, thus paralyzing them from moving toward the goal.  However, you can not damage sperm dna with any of these methods.  They are safe to you and your baby.

 

TBM (turkey baster method)

Have your DH give you a "sample". catch it in a either a cup or in a non-spermicidal condom. add warm lime (body temp 98-99*f)  to the sample to get it to a ph of 4-4.5.  Do not warm lime in microwave- warm in hot sink.  Mix gently by swirling around and let sit for a few minutes (never longer than 10).  then, use a needle-less medicine syringe to insert the mixture into you. Lay with hips raised or jump and dump. your choice!!! :) GL!!!

Aways use this with the 7 sway factors

 
The number of drops of  lime you will use will depend on the size of your DH's sample, the ph the sample starts out at and the final ph you end up with. Most likely, this will be anywhere between 3 and 15 drops..... you will need to experiment and test with ph strips or a digital pH tester to determine your personal norm.  Place this in syringe and insert in vj and prop hips (or jump and dump).  30 minutes later if your pH is 5 or higher insert 1-3ml of douche.  Keep checking your pH every half hour for up to 4 hours, lowering if the pH is 5 or higher.  Once at 4 hours add lime douche tampon to keep pH down for the next 8 hours.
 
For douche you can use lime douche ( pH 2) or you can use 7% vinegar douche (pH 4) you can find vinegar info here:
 

 
you will need:

clean cup 
non-latex non-spermicide condom (optional)
ph strips
7% pickeling vinegar mix (or lime)
Lime douche tampon  
needleless syringe
sample from DH :)

Swim Up

This method is for ttc a dd.  The principle of this method is Y sperm thrives in the perfect pH (9-9.9.)  So if we provided that pH it will incourage the Y sperm over the X sperm to swim upwards.  The slowest are the majority of X-bearing sperm.  Semen is placed in the bottom of a test tube and the sperm swim upwards through an egg white substance, to the top of the tube. The fasest sperm are selected and discarded.  Then the remaining bottom sperm (in theory majority X-bearing sperm) are used for TBM.

 

For this method you will need:-->-->
  • Test tube
  • Incubator (approx 99F/37C) -->-->
  • Microscope (best magnification between 100x - 300x) -->-->
  • 1 Pasteurized REAL chicken egg (use WHITES only) -->-->
  • Bottled distilled water -->-->
  • 6 x medicine droppers (or 2, but wash very well in-between use)-->-->
  • Cup or condom for dh's sample -->-->
  • pH strips
  • 7% vinegar-or lime (for TBM & douche)
  • Tampon
  • Optional: Replens,  or rephresh small amount every 3 days

 

Egg whites pH need to be 9-9.9.  If it is more than 9.9 it will kill sperm.  So please read the egg white mix recipe below.  If it is less than 9 it will not work well to sort sperm.  Buy several different brands of eggs to find which one has the best pH.  To raise pH you wash egg shell and store in fridge for 2 weeks in a glass bowl.  Warm egg whites have a higher pH.  Do not warm egg whites in microwave. There is no other way to raise pH of egg whites (baking soda will not raise pH high enough, sorry)

 

*If your egg whites sink please click here

 

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Egg White Mix Recipe for only if your egg whites are a pH of 10+:

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First check real EW pH.  If it is less than 10 then you don’t need to do this. ….Using a fork gently mix: WHITE ONLY from 1 PASTEURIZED CHICKEN EGG  preseed.  pH of this mixture should be 9.  Don't add preseed too fast or the pH will drop to low.  Add a little, check pH then add a little more.-->-->

 

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The Method:

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Step 1:  Dh to DTD in a cup or condom.

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Step 2:  Place semen in bottom of test tube - note the measurement.

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Step 3:  Gently place an equal amount of egg white mixture on top of semen in test tube (ie, 2mls of egg white solution, if 2mls of semen).  Make sure to place it in the middle of the test tube.  Do not touch semen with tip. Egg white should remain floating on top of semen.-->-->

Step 4:  Place test tube in incubator at a 45 degree angle (temp in incubator should be approx 99F/37C, you may have to put a light towel around base it to reach this temp but do NOT go over 100F/37.77C as this will slow the sperm down).  *Take note of time, or set a timer for 1 hour.

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Step 5:  Douche a small amount lime & water (usual recipe is 1 tbsp of each) or 7% vinegar douche, using a medicine dropper or douche bottle.

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Step 6:  After 1 hour, use a medicine dropper to suck up any sperm at the top of the tube, aswell as ALL of the egg white mix.  These portions in theory contains a small amount of very fast X-bearing sperm, as well as majority of Y-bearing sperm.  You may want to check with a microscope that these are the fast swimmers.  Discard these portions.

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Step 7:  Using a different medicine dropper, suck up the remaining contents of the test tube and transfer to a clean cup.  This should be ONLY semen (no egg white mix).  This portion is to be kept and used for TBM.

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Step 8:  You may want to now double check that the last portion is mostly x-sperm.  Put one drop on the slide of your scope (make sure you have a slide cover on top  of the sample and look at it under the icroscope.) You should only have semen remaining. They should be the slowest sperm.   Make sure you don't mix these up with the portion above! 

 

Step 9:  Add lime juice one drop at a time to the semen in the cup to create a pH of 4.5 - 5.5.  Gently 'swish' to combine the two liquids.  

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Step 10:  Using a different medicine dropper, insert the splime whilst lying down with hips tipped slightly or add splime (semen/lime) to a diva cup and insert into vj) 

 

Gradient Density Centrifuge 

This method is for ttc a dd.  The principle of this method is that the X-bearing sperm are heavier than the Y-bearing sperm, due to more DNA.  Using the G force of the centrifuge, a higher ratio of the X-bearing sperm will sediment in the bottom of the test tube, after being through each layer of the 3 step Gradient Density (sucrose solution). You never do this alone as it only sways by about 5-7%.  You need to do swim up after this!

For this method you will need:

  • Centrifuge
  • Test tube with stopper/lid (2 required if you have a centrifuge that needs balancing - ie, more than one position for the tube)
  • Bottled distilled water
  • Caster sugar, or a fine grade of sugar
  • Cup or non-latex non-spermicide condom for dh's sample
  • 3 x medicine droppers
  • 1 needless syringe OR douche bottle (for douching)
  • Bottled lime juice
  • pH strips
  •  Microscope (best magnification between 100x - 300x)
  •  Insert Replens or Rephresh (finger tip amount) every 3 days

Sucrose Recipes:

50% solution = 3 tablespoons & 1 teaspoon of SUGAR + 3 tablespoons & 1 teaspoon of DISTILLED WATER. 

45% solution = 3 tablespoons of SUGAR + 3 tablespoons & 2 teaspoons of DISTILLED WATER.

40% solution = 2 tablespoons & 2 teaspoons of SUGAR + 4 tablespoons of DISTILLED WATER.

** Dissolve each solution in a cup, which is held in a bowl of hot water.  You may need to stir each solution until it is completely dissolved.  The solutions should be CLEAR when completed.

The Method:

Step 1:  Dh to DTD in a cup or condom.

Step 2:  Layer the test tube with sucrose solutions.  *These solutions should be warmed to body temperature.*  First put the 50% solution on the bottom (0.25mls), then gently place the 45% solution on top of this (0.25mls), and then the 40% solution as the top layer (0.25mls).  You should see a fine line between each layer.

Step 3:  Put the cup or condom of semen in a basin of warm water.  Wait for the semen to liquify.

Step 4:  Place the liquefied semen on top of the sucrose solutions in the test tube. 

Step 5:  Centrifuge for 20 - 30 minutes, until there is sperm sediment in the bottom of the test tube.  You will see the sperm seeping it's way down each layer like "little ray's of sunshine" (if you check every 5 - 10 minutes). Do not stop centrifuge suddenly as this will kill all sperm.  Rather let it gradually slow down.

Step 6:  Using a medicine dropper, remove the top semen aswell as 1 or 2 layers of the sucrose solution (leaving only the 50% solution with sperm sediment for Swim up only the bottom layer, OR 45% & 50% solutions with sperm left if you choose to swim up the bottom 2 layers).  **Please note that using the bottom 2 layers will give you more sperm but also a slightly less concentration of X sperm.  Discard these top layer/s.  Optional:  You may wish to check a droplet of this discarded layer/s under the microscope. They will appear very fast swimmers.

Step 7:  Do swim up (see method above) *If your egg whites sink please click here

Step 8:  Do TBM (see method abvoe)

 

***Spinning to Stress was removed from this list because there were no studies to back it up.   If you want info for ss just look further down this thread and I have posted it there.-->-->

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Ok, how much research/success is behind these methods??  is this just something that someone thought up??  it sounds good though!

also where do i buy a centrifuge??  i don't even know really what a centrifuge is... lol. 

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momof2boys:

Ok, how much research/success is behind these methods??  is this just something that someone thought up??  it sounds good though!

also where do i buy a centrifuge??  i don't even know really what a centrifuge is... lol. 

lol you really should talk to the baby center group.  But we found over 20 current studies for this and there is a group of women ttc this way.  One lady did do spin to stress with lime and got a girl.  Some got there centrifuges from ebay but most got theres from toys are us for 50$

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i just did a search on toyrus.com for microscope & centrifuge, but nothing came up for centrifuge.  i will have to check out the other site, too.  i had no idea about all this stuff u could do to try to sway~ it's crazy!!

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momof2boys:
i just did a search on toyrus.com for microscope & centrifuge, but nothing came up for centrifuge.  i will have to check out the other site, too.  i had no idea about all this stuff u could do to try to sway~ it's crazy!!

Here is the link for the centerfuge they use :

http://www.hammacher.com/publish/72523.asp?promo=Children

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Not sure what a centrifuge is, here is a link: 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifuge

I had no idea what they were, so google searched for info.

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i had my DH read all this and he thought it was CRAZY!!  LOL  i told him i don't care how crazy it is, if it gets you the gender u want!!

but i don't know if i want to spend the money on the centrifuge, microscope, etc...  i know not much IF it gets u the gender of your dreams.  i've just gotten really cheap lately as we're trying to pay down our credit cards!  who isn't i guess?  lol  if I DID get a girl, i think we'd go broke for sure with me buying her stuff  ; P

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I would have never guessed that we would be willing to go so extreme.  But in the end we had to say we did all we could.  And we felt that it was part of our 'path'.  So what I'm guess I'm trying to say is , no mater what you choose to do, you need to be confidant in your attempt so that you have no regrets.

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Reddcin~

is it really best to get a microscope 100-300X?  what about going higher??  i'm thinking about getting one so I can "check" on the spermies after adding lime, lol.  that is if i don't get a BFP soon, which i'm not going to hold my breath for.

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Reddcin~

is it really best to get a microscope 100-300X?  what about going higher??  i'm thinking about getting one so I can "check" on the spermies after adding lime, lol.  that is if i don't get a BFP soon, which i'm not going to hold my breath for.

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Yup you can't go higher because the sperm are to large.  You will zoom right past them.

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really i would think that the more magnification the better, since they're sooooo tiny!!?!  so you could really see the sperm pretty well with that magnification??  well then I guess a toy one from Toys R Us it is, LOL.

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really i would think that the more magnification the better, since they're sooooo tiny!!?!  so you could really see the sperm pretty well with that magnification??  well then I guess a toy one from Toys R Us it is, LOL.

Yup on my microscope I tried using the higher zoom and you zoom right past them.  They are bigger than I thought they would be.  My dh complaint is you can't see the tails to well but you can tell how they are swimming.  You also need a colored back ground to see them but that comes attached to the microscope.

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Check out the first post.  There have been some more at home highly technical methods added Happy  LOL

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