I forgot to do the Cue II vaginal test this morning. The manual says to wait at least 2 hours after you wake up and are moving around and I totally forgot until later in the afternoon. By that point I went swimming (in a salt water pool) and remembered to test afterwards. Well, I got a VERY low reading: 103. I would guess that it was from the small amount of salt water left on me that the tester touched on the way in during insertion.

I tested a couple hours later and got a 234.

Usually I wouldn't test twice in the same day, but I thought something might be up with that low number.

What do you more experienced Cue II users think?

This is a hard one because I get very drastic numbers from morning to afternoon to night.  I tried this one month by taking my vaginal reading at 11:30am and then at 7:00pm.  What I found is that sometimes my numbers will be the same but most of the time it would vary like yours did.  The salt water should not affect your reading to much because there is more to electrolytes than salt.  Your monitor measures electrolytes not sodium however lots of sodium can affect your reading.  The amount that would have been on the outside of your vj most likely would not have made a difference but I don't know that for a fact.  

You need to count the one that is closest to the time that you normally take it and that would be your vaginal low if you are close to O.  If you are not close to O you don't have to worry about that number as it is just a reading.  Remember that it can be within 2 hours of when you are supposed to take it and still be an accurate number.  

 

8/5-8/7 CD1-3 Didn't test as I hadn't yet received the CUE II

8/8 CD4                 Vaginal 180 (reading taken at night)

8/9 CD5   Oral 155  Vaginal 166

8/10 CD6 Oral 150  Vaginal 173

8/11 CD7 Oral 194   Vaginal 224

8/12 CD8 Oral 194   Vaginal 183

8/13 CD9 Oral 188   Vaginal 141 (Used more than a fingertip of Replens the night before - could that have messed up the reading?)

8/14 CD10 Oral 155   Vaginal 230

8/15 CD11 oral (forgot..opps!) Vaginal 303

8/16 CD12 Oral 194 Vaginal 104 (tested at 12 noon, I usually test at 9 to 9:30 am - tested right after swimming in salt water pool. At 3pm I tested again and got a 234)

I thought I had O'd yesterday. jojo thought I had too. My CP was high and softer than usual, but I'm no expert on that - I just started feeling it the past month. I have no CM, which I'm not sure if that could be from my supps (Calcuim, mag., vit d, asprin, folic acid and cranberry) or if I really hadn't/haven't O'd.

This is also my 1st month using the Cue and I have no idea how my body operates, all I know is I have a 30 day cycle, consistently.

 

 

I don't think you have O'ed because I don't see a Cue Peak yet however I can't say for sure that CD9 was not a Cue Peak because we don't know the reading for CD11 would have been.  With that said I would say that you have not O'ed even if we would have counted the 234.  Your numbers can go crazy after you have O'ed so we usually say that you should not take them after O.  I am going to recommend that you take your readings throughout your entire cycle for the first and second month so that we can see how your body works.  If you would have stopped your readings after CD11 then we would not have known that it was a fake surge and that also would have meant that you have a 19 day LP which is really really long for a 30 day cycle.

This 104 could be your low so you will want to watch for a 15% or greater rise tomorrow, and another high number to confirm O on Monday.  It is very important to take your readings everyday or it is not accurate in determining O.

 

Thank you Michaela. I am going to keep on taking my readings for the rest of this cycle for sure. I am planning on doing my O+12 attempt next cycle so I am trying to figure everything out this cycle.

I thought that a 19 day LP was WAY long for a 30 day cycle and even with the supps, I thought it was weird to have O'd w/o any noticable change in CM. So, I will be religious about taking my readings at the SAME TIME daily from now on and we'll see what happens.

BTW, What would be the average LP for a 30 days cycle?

 

 

 

 Everyone's LP is different so it is hard to say but no matter how long your cycles are it should be at a minimum of 10 days because if it is shorter the baby has a hard time implanting.

You definitely need to watch for O signs as well as using the Cue.  I use BBT, my Ovacue, cervical position, cervical mucous, and O pains all to help me pinpoint O.  If my Ovacue is saying that I O'ed but I do not see a temp shift or CM change I know that I had a fake surge.  For me I get anywhere from 1 to 3 Cue Peak in a cycle so I really need to watch my numbers and all of the other signs of O.  

8/5-8/7 CD1-3 Didn't test as I hadn't yet received the CUE II

8/8 CD4                 Vaginal 180 (reading taken at night)

8/9 CD5   Oral 155  Vaginal 166

8/10 CD6 Oral 150  Vaginal 173

8/11 CD7 Oral 194   Vaginal 224

8/12 CD8 Oral 194   Vaginal 183

8/13 CD9 Oral 188   Vaginal 141 (Used more than a fingertip of Replens the night before - could that have messed up the reading?)

8/14 CD10 Oral 155   Vaginal 230

8/15 CD11 oral (forgot..opps!) Vaginal 303

8/16 CD12 Oral 194 Vaginal 104 (tested at 12 noon, I usually test at 9 to 9:30 am - tested right after swimming in salt water pool. At 3pm I tested again and got a 234)

NEWLY ADDED: 

8/17 CD13 Oral 207 VJ 146

8/18 CD14 Oral 162 VJ 105

What's going on? Can you have 2 VR lows? Would you consider the 146 on CD13 to be a VR Rise? Will I have my VR rise probably tomorrow then? FWIW, my CM is EW, though not in large amounts, which isprobably from the supps.

Help..... Micheala? JoJo? Anyone?

 

 

LOL!!!  No you can't have 2 vaginal lows your body is just gearing up to O so it may stay low for awhile like it started to on CD12 and it has stayed low so the 105 today sounds pretty promising for your vaginal low.  It does look like you could be working on a 2nd Cue Peak though because of CD13's Oral Reading of 207.  If your vaginal reading spikes back up above 200 then that will be your Vaginal Rise and you are most likely O'ing however if it does not then depending on tomorrow's reading CD13 would be your Cue Peak and you will O on CD17.  That is what I bet will happen.  Your numbers could stay low but it isn't a vaginal low until 1 or 2 days before you are supposed to O.  

We will need to wait and see what tomorrows readings are before we can determine the next step but make sure you are watching that vj number because that could be your low.  I am willing to be though that you will O on CD17. 

snakesnsnails:

8/17 CD13 Oral 207 VJ 146

8/18 CD14 Oral 162 VJ 105

OK, I am far from an expert, but just by looking at your Oral #'s, I would say you just got your CUe Peak on CD 13 provided your # tomorrow is around the same as today.  This means that you would be set to O CD 19-20, making your LP 10-11 days if your cycle is 30 days.  Your vaginal #'s look fine and at this point you should still be looking for a Vaginal low and rise.  Hopefully Micheala or Jojo will respond, they are good at this!  HTH

Edited: OK.....LOL, while I was posting so was Micheala!  She is probable right!

I dont think the salt water would make the number go low.  I would think it would be HIGH!  If you take a reading after eating soy sauce the night before your orals can be off the charts...LOL...so the monitor reads sodium and lack there of.  The problem with taking vaginals at varying times, is they do vary!  I can be low in the AM and high in the PM.  What you need is consistancy.  So if that first reading was taken the closest to your real time, I would count it. 

Did you have any O symptoms or felt like you were gearing up to O and did this number coorelate with your oral readings?

Ok...sorry...didn't read passed the first post.

That 303 did confirm O for the cycle.  You really shouldn't take readings passed your O time.  They can be everywhere.  If you Oed around the time you really do O per month and you had O pains, you Oed.  If not you could be working on another peak and that could have been a fake surge.  I doubt it though.  With a 30 day cycle.  You could be gearing up to O for real because a 30 day cycle can put you at Oing on day 16 or so...depending on your luteal phase.  What has me thinking is that 194 reading in the am.  Normally I would say don't take anymore readings, but knowing your cycle legnth now, I'm wondering.  Just keep taking them and post the numbers.  You might see that you really O on day 16.  Part of me thinks it can be a longshot.....but another big part of me says, we have to see for sure....

Thanks ladies. We'll see what tomorrow's numbers are. Due to the slightly increased Cm and the EWCM I've had the past 2 days, I think I will be Oing in the next day or two.

This worries me for next month when I'm TTC though. How will I know a Vj low and a VJ hight are the real thing? Are your numbers pretty much simular from month to month? (Like could I have another pattern like this one?)

I hope I don't drive you crazy next month.

 

snakesnsnails:

(Like could I have another pattern like this one?)

That is what I'll count on.  If you do really O later, I will go on that for the following month and just hope I give you the right advice.  Unfortunately, if your body trys to release and early folly and then the body reabsorbs it, there is nothing anyone can do.  It's just how your body does things.  Mine does this.  It isn't easy, but having a practice cycle under your belt, it can at least guide you somewhat.  That is the best we can do.  I would keep checking all signs and symptoms of O too to help you out.

I totally agree with Jojo.  My body loves to try and release a folly about 2 times a month and then they are reabsorbed and that is why I get more than one Cue Peak.  I know that is the pattern for me and I know what to look for.  I always have to be ready for the real deal though and it does make some things tough but once you have a few practice rounds under your belt you will be amazed at how accurate this little monitor is!!

If you are having O symptoms now then I am going to assume that if your number spikes tomorrow that this is your real O. 

8/5-8/7 CD1-3 Didn't test as I hadn't yet received the CUE II

8/8 CD4                 Vaginal 180 (reading taken at night)

8/9 CD5   Oral 155  Vaginal 166

8/10 CD6 Oral 150  Vaginal 173

8/11 CD7 Oral 194   Vaginal 224

8/12 CD8 Oral 194   Vaginal 183

8/13 CD9 Oral 188   Vaginal 141 (Used more than a fingertip of Replens the night before - could that have messed up the reading?)

8/14 CD10 Oral 155   Vaginal 230

8/15 CD11 oral (forgot..opps!) Vaginal 303

8/16 CD12 Oral 194 Vaginal 104 (tested at 12 noon, I usually test at 9 to 9:30 am - tested right after swimming in salt water pool. At 3pm I tested again and got a 234)

8/17 CD13 Oral 207 VJ 146

8/18 CD14 Oral 162 VJ 105 (Cm: EW)

8/19 CD15 Oral 184 VJ 231 (Cervix soft and high, Cm creamy, no longer EW)

What you do think? Think I O'd today, CD15 or on CD11? Don't you think that witha 30 days cycle a 19 day LP is WAY long? I'd be more inclined to guess O for today, a 15 day LP seems more likely.

Do you think for next month I should buy some OPK's to help confirm O? I've never used those and have no idea how they work, but a "2nd opinion" of sorts of if I O'd or not would be great. Especially since I'll trying for an O+12.