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  • 06-28-2008 5:41 AM

    Fertlility over 40

    Hi there fellow Mature Mama's

     I am now researching how to ehance fertiliy at my nearly ripe age of 40. I have a copied the extract for all of us.

    Interesting it reccomends Red Clover but from what I understand if you are TTC to conceive a DD Red Clover is a no go. 

    I know I need  to try and enhance my fertility but would dearly love a DD . 

    How do you counterbalance Fertility and swaying, given that swaying couteracts you being at your most optimum fertility!!!

    Also what do you thnk about some of the reccomendations below.

    Hugs MelodyLove Ya!

     

    I thought the below was interesting information

    The most fertile years of a woman's life are those between 18 and 28. Even into the mid-thirties, it is usually fairly easy to conceive and carry a pregnancy to term. During these years the hormones that control ovulation, enhance conception, and ensure a healthy pregnancy are usually made easily and in generous quantities. And detrimental life-style choices have not had decades of repetition to create chronic problems.

    But more and more women are waiting until their late thirties, early forties, even late forties, to have children. Is this too late? Are these destined to have high-risk pregnancies? Will these children have more birth defects?

    The answer to these questions - and others like them - is "no!" for wise women who enlist the help of green allies to increase fertility, ensure conception, prevent birth defects, and promote a healthy pregnancy and an easy delivery.

    INCREASING FERTILITY; ENSURING CONCEPTION

    Increase your chances of conception by meditating. Cultivating a calm attitude, not surprisingly, enhances fertility. Even taking a quiet five minutes alone just for you, free of all responsibilities, can bring big results if done frequently enough.

    Use lunaception to time your ovulation so you have the best odds of conceiving. It's fine to have sex in the weeks before ovulation, especially if the sex is focused on the woman and her orgasm, but do save your best efforts for those three nights when your "moon" is full and bright and ready to frolic.

    Orgasm on the part of the male is necessary for fertilization. The woman's orgasm does increase the possibility of conception. Women who experience orgasm after their partner (up to 40 minutes after his ejaculation) have the very best chance of becoming pregnant.

    Red clover is the single best remedy for women over forty who want to conceive but can't - even if there are medical reasons for not conceiving such as blocked tubes, diabetes, ovarian cysts, internal scarring, or endometriosis. There are many heart-warming success stories I could share about red clover! But suffice to say, drinking 2-4 cups of the infusion of the dried blossoms (neither tincture nor tea nor pills will work for this application) seems to do wonders for fertility, no matter what your age.

    PREVENTING BIRTH DEFECTS

    Boosting your nutritional status makes birth defects less of a worry. Women who drink 2-4 cups of stinging nettle infusion daily and eat cooked leafy greens as well as lettuce salads are getting the abundant folic acid, calcium, magnesium, and other minerals needed to create a healthy baby. (Tinctures, pills, and teas contain little or none of these important nutrients.)

    Vitamin E is an especially critical nutrient for fertility after forty and freedom from birth defects. Freshly-ground wheat flour, cold-pressed oils, and nut butters are all good sources of vitamin E, as are stinging nettle infusion and most cooked seaweed, such as kelp. The man's vitamin E level has as much, if not more, bearing on freedom from birth defects as does the woman's vitamin E level.

    Avoid heat, both of you. Hot tubs, even prolonged soaking in a hot bath, can cause temporary (up to several months) sterility in some men. In women, it can endanger the early embryo and trigger a miscarriage or birth defects.

    Avoid drugs, both of you, including alcohol, tobacco, coffee, as well as over-the-counter drugs and prescription drugs (except those you absolutely need). Your liver needs to be strong and so do your kidneys, so you can conceive and gestate a child. Instead of alcohol, which damages the liver, drink herbal infusions or alcohol-free wine or beer. Instead of tobacco, which may contribute to birth defects and low birth weight, try smoking a little dried peppermint, or, better yet, go for a walk. Instead of coffee, which challenges the kidneys, you may wish to drink green tea or black tea, or try coffee substitutes, especially the one made with dandelion roots. Instead of drugs to ease everyday aches and pains, use the gentle herbal remedies instead.

    EMOTIONAL ISSUES

    Ambivalence about pregnancy and parenthood is normal and natural. But the older a woman gets, the more complicated her emotions about it may be. Add to her emotional soup pot strong opinions from family and friends, confusing information spread by the popular media, and fear-inducing pronouncements from "helpful" medical professionals, and that pot will be in danger of boiling over. Herewith then, some wise woman hints for keeping your cool in the midst of overt and covert confusion.

    Contrary to current opinion, having children in your forties is ordinary and common worldwide. The Bible mentions several women having children in their fifties. What is unusual and unique to our time is having a first child in one's forties. Our mother's, mother's, mothers were having their fifth or eighth or tenth child when they were in their forties, not their first. If people tell you it just isn't done, close your eyes and call upon the spirit of your great-great-great-great grandmother, then smile and tell them it seems utterly ordinary to you.

    Feeling tense and distressed about choosing or refusing motherhood? Motherwort tincture is my favorite calmative. A dose of 10-20 drops helps clear your mind, eases your tension, and assists you in discerning the best path to follow.

    Bach flower remedies excel as helpers when you are feeling emotionally overwhelmed. Try:

    • Aspen when you feel anxious, apprehensive, or afraid of the unknown.
    • Mimulus when you are dwelling on a specific fear.
    • Elm when you feel overwhelmed or inadequate.
    • Red Chestnut when you are afraid for or worried about your baby to be.
    • Rock Rose when you are trembling, shaking, or weeping from anxiety or fear.

    Regular gentle massage or Reiki treatments not only help you calm your distress, they also guide you in creating a strong center that's resistant to being pushed around by other people's opinions. Massage and/or Reiki also help prepare your mind/body for a healthy pregnancy and a safe birth.

     

    SPECIAL ALLIES FOR PREGNANT WOMEN OVER FORTY

    The single most important herb for pregnant women over forty is comfrey (Symphytum uplandica hybrids). The leaves of the mature plant contain an abundance of constituents beneficial to mother and babe, including generous amounts of minerals, alantoin, proteins, and many vitamins. The minerals in comfrey help ensure healthy nervous system growth; the fetus's developing brain uses the proteins. And the alantoin helps the mother's tissues become stretchy and elastic.

    Aging can lead to increased stiffness and brittleness in bones and muscles, making pregnancy more arduous and painful, labor slower and more difficult, and injury more likely during birth. The hormones of pregnancy, which help soften and relax the pelvic tissues, may not be produced in adequate amounts. Comfrey comes to the rescue! Comfrey creates flexible and strong tissues throughout the body especially mucus surfaces (including intestines, uterus, bladder and vagina), the bones, the ligaments and tendons, and the skin.

    Regular use of the leaf infusion, at least a quart a week, promotes a safe delivery by:

    • strengthening uterine muscles and preparing them to work easily and well
    • strengthening perineal tissues so they become resistant to tearing
    • strengthening uterine ligaments so the uterus does not prolapse
    • strengthening the bladder and increasing resistance to bacterial infection
    • strengthening the vagina and helping to promote an environment hostile to infection
    • providing easily assimilated minerals to prevent eclampsia and other complications
    • helping the bones of the pelvis flex and open during birth
    • increasing iron in the blood and thus forestalling post-partum hemorrhage.

    I harvest the flowering stalks when they are fully formed; and I am careful to use the cultivated garden comfrey, which grows very tall and has purplish, pinkish, bluish flowers. I avoid wild comfrey, which stays rather small even when flowering, and has cream-colored, white, or yellowish flowers.

    Some people feel that comfrey is not safe to use during pregnancy. Some people feel comfrey is not safe to use internally at all. I disagree. The roots of comfrey do contain compounds that are best avoided during pregnancy (as do all parts of the wild plant). In fact, I rarely use comfrey root because of the possibility of liver congestion, and I strongly caution those who have had hepatitis, chemotherapy, or alcohol problems to strictly avoid comfrey root. Yet even these people can benefit from use of comfrey leaf infusions.

    Another important herbal ally for women over forty who desire a child is chaste tree (Vitex agnus-castii). It has been used in Africa and parts of Europe for several thousand years to discourage the male libido. In women, the effects seem to be the opposite! It may also be a fertility enhancer. Most importantly, chaste tree is a strengthening tonic for the pituitary gland, the master control gland for the endocrine system. Daily use of the tincture of the berries (1 dropperful/1 ml 2-3 times daily) had been shown to increase progesterone - the hormone of pregnancy - and luteinizing hormone - which promotes conception. Because it can lower prolactin levels, chaste tree is best discontinued during the last trimester of pregnancy.

    Dong quai (Angelica sinensis) is not recommended for women over forty. In general, this herb promotes blood flow to the uterus and surrounding tissues. This can promote the growth of fibroids and increase the risk of post-partum hemorrhage. Ginger is a better warming tonic; motherwort is better at relieving pain; and raspberry is better at preparing the uterus for birth.

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  • 07-02-2008 3:53 PM

    Re: Fertlility over 40

    Honestly I think it is a fine line a balancing act so to speak... We know our fertiltiy is declinging yet we really want a specific gender....I have pretty much cut out the swaying at this point, I have been trying for so long with no luck that I worry I am beyond getting pg or maybe Dh has an issue so either way my chances seem failrly slim anymore...without swaying much!






  • 07-03-2008 6:32 AM

    Re: Fertlility over 40

    Hi Deech, I am just so sick of the Doctors and people telling me about my decling fertility as if I lived in a cave.

    I am going for a Sonohystergram tomorrow for a suspected Fibroid and I am so nervous!!!!

    It really is a balancing act because I know that I want a DD and want to try everything to get her.  But on the same hand if I cannot get pregnant I have no chance of getting her.  My EWCM had virtually dried up since the supplements.  To make matters worse I just do not want to get pregnant but I want a specific gender!!!!

    What I am finding is that the Doctors basically want me to go straight to IVF but even then they do not give our age group much hope.

    My question  to them is that there must be some women that are nearly 40 and that get pregnant!!! They give me the answer that it is possible but extremely hard!!!!!!!!!!!  Sorry to vent but have had enough about hearing how impossible it is for me as an oldie.

     I also think their care factor is less because I already have children and they are less compassionate.

    This truly sucks........

    Hugs MelodyLove Ya!

       

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  • 07-06-2008 2:18 PM

    Re: Fertlility over 40

    Hi there! I hope you get pregnant soon. I have been trying for over a year and after 6 boys long for a girl. It is so hard to sway for a girl when you are older. I am 42. thankyou for all the info and please let me know if you learn anything else. I know alot of woman who are 40 plus and they have concieved and have had healthy babies. On the other hand, two of my friends just miscarried at 42. Pray and trust the Lord. He is the only one that can give us a precious baby girl.

  • 07-07-2008 5:25 AM

    Re: Fertlility over 40

    Hi there, I hope you get pregnant to soon.  My fingers are crossed for all of us.

    I will definetely keep looking for more information.  Acupuncture is supposed to be excellent for us more mature mamas!

     I am going to give that a go.  I am alos reducing my supplements, I think I was overdosingHappy Smile

    Keep in touch.

     

    Melody

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  • 07-07-2008 11:51 AM

    Re: Fertlility over 40

    Melody- I agree I think they try to make us feel as if we were 150 years old and had the nerve to want to get pg.. It is crazy!!

     

    As for me after 5 boys I would love a little pink, but will not sway anymore since we have been ttc for about 18 months now with no luck I believe we will be throwing in the towel soon because we will not seek out any medical intervention!!






  • 07-25-2008 2:45 AM

    Re: Fertlility over 40

    I'm 41 and starting stims for IVF on Monday.  ET is scheduled for about week of 11 Aug.  I still feel fertile.  I ovulate (I know cause its painful every month when I drop eggs!) - I still have a high sex drive - still orgasim.

    I dont hear the stuff you are hearing Deech, about older women not being fertile.  Maybe its because I only hear what I want to?  I am thinking positive.  This is going to work....

    I'll send you pink dust Deech if you send me your blue plse!

    Me 41 - 2 Kids DH 41 - 0 Kids Baby Boy - 20 years Baby Girl - 17 years IVF Aug 08 - ttc Baby Boy BFN TER Nov 08 - cycle cancelled (no lining)


     

  • 07-26-2008 8:28 PM

    Re: Fertlility over 40

    Hi theashleys, Good luck to youGood Luck Clover . My fingers will be crossed for you. Please let me know how it goes, it is exciting.

     I think the issue is over 40 our fertility declines.  It does not make us infertile by no means but just a harder tp conceive quickly.

     On the other hand I am like you as in I do ovulate etc... so I suppose it can be individual.as to how rapidly it declines.

    I have finally found a great new Doctor that is prepared to help me firstly using a very small dose of clomid as I do ovulate and if that does not work, then IVF.  But he has been a lot more positive than other Docs but told me that I need to hurry up I am nearly 40 and he told me I have a couple of years still. That made feel much better.

    The point is for me is that a lot of Docs have made feel like a Dinosaur and have not in my experiences given me the same assistance as if would have been younger and this has been really hard for me and frustrating.

     Love Ya! Melody

     

     

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  • 10-12-2008 5:31 PM

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    I also think their care factor is less because I already have children and they are less compassionate.

    Very very true!  The RE I went to a couple of years ago pretty much as said that to my DH.  Well I am planning to try again - I stopped going b/c they weren't finding sperm -- he just did a SA though and it was very good.  Possibly he wasnt producing then b/c he was on anti-depressants due to MY severe GD.  Sad  I have an appt on 42nd birthday which is coming up too soon (the birthday, not the appt!)

    I heard on the radio a woman  having a boy at 39 and then concieving naturally a girl at age 45.  I was angry at the radio she didn't say she had a boy (lol) but a little hopeful she could get pg at age 45,  I know that might not happen for me, but it's a thread of hope I guess. 

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  • 10-14-2008 9:46 AM

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    Thanks for the information - declining fertility is the reason I refuse to sway.  I'd rather have a baby boy than no baby at all.

    BTW, I know I've posted this a million times but I know a woman who had a healthy baby girl at 45, and this was 40 years ago, before the advent of all the wonder drugs.  There is hope for us!!

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  • 11-04-2008 12:24 PM

    Re: Fertlility over 40

    Thanks for bumping this again...

    I am a believer in liver flushing - and it is said to help fertility too,

    so if any of you are interested in this and to raise their odds about TTC as a mature mama

    check in at www.curezone.com and search the liver flush FAQ.

    Just think about it - the liver masters over hundreds of functions in the body, it is considered the "second brain"

    so if the liver is clogged, why would that NOT have an impact on over all fertility?

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  • 11-06-2008 10:53 AM

    Re: Fertlility over 40

    ok so seriously you did this???? Which one did you do???






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