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    Baby Bear Girl [DD] Trying to conceive a girl? Here are some tips and studies! .... Last updated 10/08

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  • 10-14-2006 11:53 PM

    Re: GIRL FACTORS

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    The only thing that is 100% is PGD but we feel swaying can change the odds into our favor. Here you will find a lot of the information that is key for a good swaying attempt.  It is up to you to find the right ‘recipe’ or ‘path’ that will be your attempt for a girl.  There are many things you can do to sway the odds and here is the information that we hope will be helpful to you.  The basic idea is that x  sperm love a low pH from 4-4.5.  When exposed to this pH
     they will thrive.  Also x sperm love calcium. Sperm count is lowest when abstained doesn't occur or if it is longer than 7 days (low sperm count favors x sperm.) Finally, although timing isn’t a proved theory, it is best to time bd 3 days from O if possible or 12 hours after O because this is when cm pH is the lowest.  Ok here is the rest of the info:


    “GIRL DIET”

    Lots of calcium (milk, yogurt, etc.)
    Low salt intake
    No caffeine

    For the GIRL diet the ranges are:
    (salt)            Na++ 700-1000 mg
    (Potassium)  K+ 2,500-3,500 mg
    (calcium)      Ca 1,200-1,800 mg
    (Magnesium) Mg 200-300 mg

    Girl cook book:

    http://www.in-gender.com/cs/forums/t/49300.aspx

    Girl diet tier: 

    Tier One

    (Girl diet, acidifying diet, mineral diet and estrogen diet)

    Read your labels.  And watch your  sodium and potassium in foods!

    yogurt- Greek style or organic only (read labels and look for yogurts containing NO potassium)
    Kefir
    Milk- Organic only- read labels and choose organic milk without potassium
    tahini (sesame seed paste)- look for low salt
    Strawberries and Raspberries (look for frozen, unsweetened or canned in syrup although fresh will do)

    Tier Two

    (Girl diet & Mineral Diet)

    Parmesan cheese
    Propel fitness water with calcium
    eggs
    cottage cheese- read labels for sodium
    low salt bread
    pasta- look for calcium fortified pasta
    fish (poached in 500 ml of water to reduce sodium)
    leeks
    green beans
    cucumbers
    low sodium mayonnaise

    Tier Three

    (Girl diet and Acidifying diet) 

    Cranberries- dried or raw
    white rice
    corn cereal or puffed rice
    lamb- loin or chop
    chicken- breast
    (up to 130g of meat per day- no red meat= testosterone)

    Tier Four

    (Diets in order of importance)

    The Mineral Diet  http://www.healthyeatingclub.com/info/books-phds/books/foodfacts/html/data/data5c.html

    http://www.vaughns-1-pagers.com/food/magnesium-foods.htm

    The Acidifying Diet
     http://alkaline-alkaline.com/ph_food_chart.html

    The Progestrone Diet
     http://infertility.health-info.org/fertility-diet-lifestyle/diet-estrogen-progesterone.html

     Drinks:

    Drink suggestions:  Milk, Cranberry, Diet Cool-aid, and Cranberry Juice.

    Aspartame

    One of the fastest ways to lower pH that has been discovered is with fake sugars.  The best lowest acidic one is Aspartame.   It does have some side effects.  Some people are allergic to it so they can’t drink it.  Others it may cause a headache.. this means to cut back.  You can find Aspartame at Walmart in there cool aid or in crystal light.  You should try to drink 66-100 oz every day.

    Cranberry Juice

    Most of your Cranberry will be taken in pill form.  However you can drink the juice as well.  You can only drink either pure cranberry juice or it mixed with some other berry.



    When to have sex:

    O + 12
    This has better success than cut off.  Abstain from sex for 7 days or more, and then have sex 12 or so hours after you ovulate. Obviously, you have to pinpoint your ovulation exactly for this:  http://www.in-gender.com/cs/forums/t/37676.aspx


    Shettles Method
    Have sex least 2-3 days before Ovulating.  Then keep your pH low till O.

    Most important info!!!
    Weather you choose o+12 or shettles you need to do this!  Hour before your attempt check your cm pH.  It needs to be 4-4.5. If not then either douche or use rephresh or replens to lower pH. If you are not doing TBM then you may insert 1-3 ml of lime douche 5 minutes or so after bd.  Then 1/2 hour after attempt you need to check pH again.  If it is high you need to lower it back down to 4-4.5.  Check your pH every 1/2 hour up to 4 hours.  Then place in a lime tampon.. and leave in for 4 or more hours.  The first 4 hours are critical because it takes 4 hours for x sperm to get to the waiting zone.  With cut off you need to keep your pH 4-4.5 till confirmed O so check often!
    .

    Moon theory
    Girl- conceived in the “new moon” phase
    Boy- conceived in the “full moon” phase

    Extra’s
    No female orgasm
    Missionary position for sex
    Husband take HOT bath or shower a few minutes before sex (or have a heating pad heat up his “buddies”)
    “Jump and Dump”- go to bathroom and “dump” everything right after sex (not for TBM)  See info below as to what JD is.
    Abstinence over 7 days is best or under 48 hours.. not between 2-6 days as this favors boys
    Dh wear “tighty whities”

    The supplements-->-->

    Supplements are to decrease  cervical mucus pH.  Studies show that low pH favors girl conceptions.   The goal of the girl diet is to increase calcium and magnesium in the cm and to change pH; the goal of supplements is to change pH and make creamy CM.  Here are all the supplements that I have heard of for ttc a girl.  Granted there may be more. They key here is for you to find the right 'recipe' to make low pH with creamy cm with calicum mixed in- this is the goal. Remember.. it is better to take supplements in liquid form if you can find that because it is more easily absorbed by the body

     

     SUPPLEMENTS

    * Supplements amounts listed here are the maximum amount for dw and dh.  This isn't based on weight but more so on safety.

     

    Calcium (1200 mg  a day) take from af to O  calcium in the cm helps to sway for a girl (cal and Mag ratio has to be 2 to 1)
    Magnesium (600 mg  a day)take from af to O Mag. in the cm helps to sway for a girl
    Folic Acid (450 mcg a day)** you can take more of this if needed and be safe!!  Take all the time THIS DOES NOT SWAY!  IT PREVENTS BIRTHDEFECTS AND PREVENTS MC
    Acidilophis (2 a day)  take from af to OThis is taken to lower pH.  side effects:  this is a funny supplment.  Either it will lower your pH dramaticaly or you will raise it.  It is different for different people
    B6 (100 mg a day) Take all the time, but when you get a bfp you need to ween off slowly- if you take 100 this means the next week you take 80, then the next week 60 then 40, 20, 10 then stop.  This is taken to raise progestrone and legthen luteal phase.  Side efffects:  When taken before O it may dealy O.  It will also legthen your luteal phase
    Chasteberry (Vitex) (500 mg a day) this is to regulate cycles- do not take if you have regural cycles.  Please read this: http://www.in-gender.com/cs/forums/t/50960.aspx

    Tums (whenever you think about it- isn’t necessary to take this and calcium since it is the same thing)
    Cranberry (total of 1,500 to 10,000 mg a day if possible.  This is based on equal to fresh fruit equivalent.. not amount on bottle.  This part can be tricky.  So, 10,000 ml equivalent to fresh fruit) take from af to O this is taken to lower pH side effect:  cranberry can not be taken after O as it can cause mc.  Cranberry is a blood thinner so if you already taking a blood thinner do not take this.
    Lydia Pinkham (take from af to O) this is taken to raise progestrone and regulate cycles side effect:  This will either make your cycles regular or screw them up

    Before sex
    Sudafed (not pe) real drug name is: pseudoephedrine: (a few hours before sex) this is taken to lower pH and dry up cm

    Husband take
    Cranberry (as much as he’ll take) side effect: blood thinner.. see above
    Any of the other supplements you are taking if he’ll take them except Vitex or Lydia Pinkham.  This is listed like this because the amounts are the max alound- weight doesnt matter.

     

    Other supplments:

    For prevention of mc these supplements  can be taken by the dw. These can be used for ttc a boy or a girl except for baby asprin- its for ttc a girl

     

     

    Vitamin E-400 iui - this strengthens the outer shell of the egg and helps with implantation-->-->

    Folic acid- 800-1000mcg this strengthens the inners part of the egg-->-->

    Vitamin B12-150mcg makes folic acid work better (b6 also lengths luteal phase, if you take b6 and get a bfp don't stop suddenly, rather decrease it slowly)-->-->

    Zinc -50mg-  this repairs any of the egg that may have been damaged and also helps with implantation.  Often I will get confused and say dw can not take zinc.  If I post this; it is wrong.. Only dh taking zinc favors boys.-->-->

    Baby aspirin- 81mg- This helps with implantation and helps to maintain a pregnancy.  It thins the blood

     

    The hardest part is trying to decide what to take.  

     

    Optimal pH of cm should be
    4-4.5

     

    Optimal pH of dh semen should be

    7-7.5 (you can lower this to 4-4.5 with lime once it is outside of dh)

    Other tips:-->-->

    Lime douche and refresh/replens (see below)  are being used to sway for a girl. So is Hot showers for dh and dw (lowers sperm count and lowers pH).  Some people are using refresh/replens finger to lower cm pH.  This is all based on an environment theory that an acidc one produces girls..  Also Oing will  raise female pH so avoid this .For ttc a girl you should use the following products because they have been found to lower female testosterone (which favors boys)  Nail polish remove, Nail polish, and anything with Aerosols.

     For dh he needs to  wear tight fighting underwear.  He also should try to get on the girl diet and he needs to lower his semen pH to a 7-7.5.  He can lower pH with cranberry supplements.  His pH can be changed quickly with these- he should take as much needed the day before bd to achieve low pH  . Finally, sperm count is highest in the morning so try to time bd at night.

    The Moon-->-->

    There is no doubt that the moon can sometimes have and effect on gender if ones body responds to it.  Here is the scientific reason behind why this might be and how you can alter that effect if you need to.  The theory is that a different sperm have different ions.  Now when there is a full moon out it is scientific fact that there are positive ions in the air and we breathe it.  When there is a new moon out there are negative ions in the air and you inhaling that as well. The theory is that some peoples bodies react to these ions just like nature does (Google crops and moon, or fish and moon).  So when there is a full moon those positive ions cause your egg to have positive ions thus attracting the y sperm.  Now if you are O’ing in a full moon you need to try to counteract the effects of the Postive ions.  You can do this with  running water, air purifires, rock salt deionizers to counteract the effects of a full moon or use magnate therapy using negative ions- polar north, and avoid computers or at least have a fan blowing on you while you are on a computer.

    Website full of good info on where to find negavtive ions:

    http://www.kiflow.com/info/ions.html

     

    -Info on pH strips and retrieving cm-->-->

    Digital pH testers are the best for testing pH. For more info see here:  http://www.in-gender.com/cs/forums/t/57805.aspx Then there are two pH strips you want to look for (if not buying digital).  Alkalive and full range (also called universal).  These are found the cheapest on ebay (search pH strips then select lowest to highest price.)  Alkalive can measure between numbers like a 4.75 but can be hard to read so you need a back up.  The full range strips will only read one number- no between but they are very easy to read.  To see my review of pH strips go here:  http://www.in-gender.com/CS/forums/thread/34059.aspx-->-->  .  More info about digtital pH testers:  http://www.in-gender.com/cs/forums/p/41714/383906.aspx#383906

     

    CM pH test strips are read in 15-20 minutes (but don't read it dry)

    Semen pH test strips are read in 1 minute.  The reason for the difference is water content.

    Digital pH tester the pH is read right away- no waiting

     

    How to retrieve cm….TMI!!!  You reach up inside your V and with your finger you touch the cervix.  Then you hook your finger and pull out.  The cm on the tip of your finger is the one you want to test.  The cm closest to your cervix is the most alkaline and the cm on the edges of your v is acidic.  Wipe this on the pH strip (or on the digital pH tester wand) and wait for up to 10 minutes (no waiting for digital) depending on how much water is in your cm.  If your pH strip doesn’t change and you have tried several times to test pH; this means you have low ionic strength in your cm (which means you NEED a digtal pH tester).  Urion pH only tells you how you are doing with your diet and supplements that day- it does not help with swaying besides that.
    To test dh pH you have him give a sample in a cup or a condom.  Then test that sample with pH strips right away (the longer semen sits out the higher the pH goes and you want to know his initial pH).

    The Diva cup:

    The Diva cup will increases your chances of becoming pregnant.  And it will not effect pH.  But here is the tricky part.  Every 1/2 hour after attempt you need to remove the cup and test the pH inside your vj and in the cup and lower if necessary.  Then place the up back in.  You do this up to 4 hour then take the cup out and put in a lime tampon.  http://www.in-gender.com/cs/forums/t/50695.aspx
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    Websites:-->-->

    Diet that should be followed:
    http://www.in-gender.com/cs/forums/t/22952.aspx

    What do all these abbreviations mean?!?!?-->-->

    http://www.babycenter.com/general/1145946.html-->-->

    Douche

     -->-->

    To help conceive a baby girl use an acidic Douche -->-->

     

    There are 3 douches you can choose from.  7% vinegar/calcium, lime douche and store bought vinegar douche. 7%is most effecteve due to the acetyl radical and acetic acid.  Please note:  7% Vinegar has been known to raise the pH in some women instead of lowering it.  So please test this out before your attempt.  Lime has not had this problem. The following is an explaion of why it is better and how to make it.

     

    7% vinegar/calcium: (pH of 4)

    7% vinegar/cal works for TBM is because of 3 reasons:  The first is Because the y sperm at low pH's tails freeze (they don't like low pH), the second is because at that low pH calcium binding to sperm occurs and the Third is because of acetyl radical and acetic acid .  These chemicals play a big part in girl conceptions.  Now onto the new step.  When you TBM you freeze the tails of the y sperm to give the x sperm a chance to head up.  But  according to the study, douching an hour before is Critical for this to work.  1/2 hour the freezing stops and the y sperm start to swim again.  

    First according to the study, douching an hour before is Critical for this to work.  Then the new step for ttc a girl starts a ½ hour after bd or tbm. After having your hips elevated for ½ hour take a mixture of vinegar and distilled water and place and insert 3-4 ml it into the vj. Keep checking for up to 4 hours, then take a soaked tampon and place it in there to prevent leakage- you can remove thislater. The following is explanation on how to make the mix, the tampon, and other info.  DO NOT USE THIS FOR PLACING DIRECTION INTO SPERM (TBM).  Only lime juice (not the douche) can be used to lower semen pH directly.

     

    *For the mix you want this to have a pH of 4  The study this is based on uses vinegar.

    *To make a soaked tampon you put juice of choice in a plastic cup and soak the tampon while still in the plastic applicator. Right before inserting take the tampon out so that it isn’t dripping. Then you insert it while still lying down and leave it in..

     

    More info on this found here:

    http://www.in-gender.com/CS/forums/t/17458.aspx?PageIndex=1

     

    and here (this link will tell you how to make distilled water)

     

    http://www.in-gender.com/CS/forums/t/16792.aspx

     

    How to make 7% vinegar:

    http://www.in-gender.com/CS/forums/t/18099.aspx?PageIndex=2

     

     

     

    Lime douche: (pH of 2)

    • Mix one part lime to two parts water- test pH.  If it isn't low enough mix one to one.
    • Let the solution stand for approximately 10 minutes. -->-->
    • One hour before intercourse stir the solution again then insert some of the solution into the vagina (This can be done with a douche or a syringe ~ both available at pharmacies). -->-->
    • While inserted, empty the douche or syringe slowly and gently preferably while lying down to ensure maximum effect. -->-->

     

     

     

    DOUCHING

    A few hours before sex
    Vinegar and water (pH of 4) (4 parts water to 1 part vinegar)
    Lemon and water  (pH of 2)(equal parts water and lemon)
    Lime and water (pH of 2) (same)
    Replens or Rephresh vaginal moisturizer (every three days or every other dayonly and only a fingertip full- not the entire applicator!)  You can also use this in place of douche 2 hours before attatmp (but not the entire applicator)

     

    How to douche:  The hour before you can either use a store bought douche bag or a big syringe (12+ml).  Let is run out and wash away ewcm.  The 1/2 hour after follow up douches is only 1-3ml.  This follow up douches are ment to just lower pH.  You do not need to douche an hour before if you have a pH of 4-4.5 and no ewcm.

     

     No matter what your plan.. 1/2 hour after BD you should insert follow up douche into your vj and don't let it out This isn't a douche- but rather a mix you insert to freeze the y sperm and to give the x sperm a better chance.  Then keep cheking every 1/2 hour up to 4 hours.


    Refresh and Replens 

     

    Replens: pH 2.8

    Rephresh:  pH 4-5

    Replens is now used for replens finger.  Rephresh is used as a lube.. HOWEVER if your pH is already a pH less than 5 do not use replens, use rephresh for replens finger..you can use rephresh as a lube when bd as it has the right actic acids for ttc a girl.  But this wont sway by itself.. you still need everything else.  rephresh has a pH of 5  you want the pH to be 4-4.5.  The higher your pH the higher the pH of rephresh will be as it is a reactive lube.  where as replens is always a pH of 2 point somthing   PLEASE TRY THIS A HEAD OF TIME TO SEE HOW IT EFFECTS YOUR pH!!  For some women they will raise pH.  For the 1/2 hour after attempt if you want to lower pH with with this you need to use rephresh; not replens.

    *If you use Aci-jel, then use it just like replens.  Fine more info Herehere

     

    Replens finger.  This is for women who want to  lower  pH the days before bd time..  Every other day  bd make sure your hands are clean and then you dip your finger in replens or refresh.  Then, sit down on the toilet and insert your finger with refresh and pull out. If tested right away your cm should go from high to low (7 to 4-4.5) and stay that way for a long time.  .  You woud use this every other day to lower your pH.

     

     

    LUBE

     

    If you need lube ttc a girl you have two choices.  Either Rephresh (please read above) or canola oil.  Lubes do not sway well for a girl on there own.  You need to do everything else as well.  Lube is just to help you bd.

     

    Canola oil has a pH of  6.83 but it is an oil can can not sway.  You can use canola oil right before your attempt to help you to get pregnant  however some women's pH will raise become of this.  So you NEED to check pH every 1/2 hour up to 4 hours and lower if necessary.

     

    Finally there is a thread called ‘At Home High Tech’ which takes swaying a step further into ‘at home sperm sorting using TBM, Swim Up, or GDC.  It can all be found here:

    http://www.in-gender.com/CS/forums/t/5082.aspx

     

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  • 10-15-2006 8:05 AM

    Re: GIRL FACTORS

     

    Low sperm count favors girls.

    Written in 1998 This studies shows that low sperm count (or damaged sperm count) favors girls
    http://www.andrologyjournal.org/cgi/reprint/19/1/5

     

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  • 10-18-2006 3:35 PM

    Re: GIRL FACTORS

    With due exceptions, it seems that usually....

    the chanches of conceiving girls gradually increase with parental age.  (Usually the older the parents get in reproductive age, the more chances they have to conceive girls, if conception is achieved).

    "Chasing the gender dream"- J. Merril Thompson , Page 21 (Parental age and gender)

    http://www.in-gender.com/survey/Results_Misc.aspx

     

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  • 10-21-2006 1:47 PM

    Re: GIRL FACTORS

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    Taking vitex increases LP length and progesterone levels.  The first is important for preventing miscarriage and the second is proposed (on this site) to increase the chance for a girl.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=15134155&query_hl=1&itool=pubmed_DocSum

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  • 11-02-2006 9:32 PM

    Re: GIRL FACTORS

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    Girl diet favors girls:

    2005- Here is a study that shows this works in rats:

    http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/cgi-bin/abstract/109927307/ABSTRACT

     

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  • 11-08-2006 3:28 PM

    Baby Girl [XX] Re: GIRL FACTORS

    Low pH favors girls. Douche help to lower pH.  Douches from the very best to the least best are:

    -Vinegar 7% with calcium should be a pH of 4:

     http://www.in-gender.com/CS/forums/p/16792/145928.aspx#145928

    Why calcium is important in it:

    http://www.springerlink.com/content/3r7uxmkyxt18rcax/

    -Lime douche (lime and water) should be a pH of 2.  This is low ow because lime pH tends to climb.

    -Store bought douche works the least but is the easiest.

    *Instead of douche you can use rephresh or replens:

    http://www.in-gender.com/cs/forums/t/46148.aspx

     

  • 11-08-2006 3:31 PM

    Baby Girl [XX] Re: GIRL FACTORS

    Timing Info:

    For a Baby Girl

    There are two timing methods to choose from, cut off or o+12.  O+12 has better success rates. 

    O+12

    Please read this:
     

    3 to 4 day cut off
     
     
    Intercourse should take place 3 to 4 days prior to ovulation.  The woman should avoid orgasm and the couple should assume the missionary position (face to face) with shallow penetration at the time of ejaculation.

    Jump and Dump
     
    2 diffenations: 
     
    -  After bd you jump up and run to the toilet
     
    -At the time of intercourse your husband will disgard (dump) the first ejaculation, using the second ejaculation for your actual conception attempt. 
  • 11-10-2006 5:15 PM

    Re: GIRL FACTORS

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    Lowering men's pH of  semen

    Men who take Cranberry pills can lower their Ph.

    http://ezinearticles.com/?Your-Semen---A--Diet--For-Better-Sperm-Taste&id=138648

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  • 02-07-2007 2:19 PM

    Re: GIRL FACTORS

    Want a girl? Then go on a diet and lose some weight.


    WELLINGTON: Want to have a baby boy? Tuck into the burgers, fries and ice cream. Want a girl? Then go on a diet and lose some weight.

    It works for cows, according to John Roche, a scientist at New Zealand's dairy research organisation Dexcel. "And we would expect what holds true for one mammal will hold true across the board," he said.

    Dexcel and Ireland's Teagasc agricultural organisation studied 1,200 cows in an 18-year research project from 1986 to 2004.

    They found that cows that gained weight before conceiving were more likely to give birth to bull calves. Those shedding kilos before conception had a better chance of producing heifers (females).

    Roche told the Waikato Times , published in Hamilton at the heart of New Zealand dairying country, the research underlined the theory that humans had some control over the sex of their children.

    "Many theories have been put forward," he said, citing weather patterns, phases of the moon, bathing rituals and the timing of intercourse.

    "However, there has been little consistent scientific evidence till now."

    Roche said it was not clear exactly why weight affected the sex of a cow's offspring.

    Although the male determined the sex of the embryo at conception, the female had some control over whether to keep a male or a female one.

    "It's an evolutionary adaptation," he said. "In the wild, males compete with each other for a partner and the bigger male has a distinct advantage.

    "Female size is not as crucial. Therefore, any particular maternal characteristic that results in a larger offspring is likely to produce more males.

    "If anything reduces the size of the offspring at birth, it is a disadvantage to the individual to be born male - therefore, there is a greater probability of it being female."

    Roche said a cow losing weight before conception may have some mechanism that prompted it to reject a male embryo because it was not up to supporting the development of a bull calf.

     

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  • 08-18-2007 11:24 PM

    Re: GIRL FACTORS

    dh pH does matter! But his pH when coming out of the body should not drop below a 7 (below a 7 and he will be shotting dead sperm).  So you want his to be 7-7.5.  Once semen is out of the body it can be lowered to a pH of 4-4.5.

    Several animal studies from 1950s confirm that male pH actually matters a lot! “Weir began in 1953 a new series of experiments in which he developed two strains of mice, one with an average blood pH of 7.42 and the other with an average blood pH of 7.46. He found that the interbreeding of those mice with the blood pH of 7.42 altered the female/male sex ratio from 50:50 to 60:40 and the interbreeding of the mice with the blood pH of 7.46 altered the ratio to about 40:60. By cross breeding or reciprocal mating of different sexes of the two strains, he demonstrated that it was the blood pH of the male and not the female which determined the sex ratio of the young.” WEIR, J. A. 1953. Association of blood pH with sex ratio in mice. J. of Heredity 44:133-138. WEIR, J. A. 1955. Male influence on the sex ratio of offspring in high and low blood pH. J. of Heredity 46:277-283. I found this at: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/4225405.html. (This link contains references to several other interesting studies, which might be worth looking into.) 
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  • 08-27-2007 2:11 PM

    Re: GIRL FACTORS