[THREAD CLOSED] Gender Prediction based on Ramzi's Method of Placental Location - 6-8 weeks scans, please

 ****MAY 31, 2011***

As of today, I will no longer be making gender predictions based on Ramzi's Method.  It is not that I have found the method to be unreliable, it is that I have found the information presented to me to be unverified, and therefore, impossible to use in a scientific way of proving this method to be useful in detecting gender between 6-8 weeks.

The majority of scans posted are cut-off and zoomed in to show the bean.  Some are photographed with camera phones and have large flash reflections covering most of the images.  Some are perfectly good images but the poster failed to ask the technician at the time of the scan if the image was in the true transverse plane and orientated as assumed.

I think under the right conditions, with the right image and the right questions asked, this method can be used quite reliably for gender prediction in early pregnancy.  

Wishing everyone luck with their pregnancies!

Sincerely, AL

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READ THIS BEFORE YOUR FIRST SCAN! 

IF I AM WRONG ON MY PREDICTION, I STRONGLY BELIEVE THAT IT IS NOT BECAUSE THE THEORY IS UNTRUE- IT'S BECAUSE I WAS WRONG. YOU NEED TO HAVE YOUR TECHNICIAN ORIENTATE THE SCAN - OTHERWISE, I CAN ONLY MAKE A GUESS.

Hi girls,

I am simply fascinated by this study on placental position in early gestation to predict gender.  The study included 5000 pregnancies and the method was found to be successful in predicting gender in 97% of the pregnancies.

Here's the link:
http://www.obgyn.net/ultrasound/ultrasound.asp?page=/fm/articles/fetal_gender_placental_location

Anyway, just for the fun of it, anyone willing, will you please post early gender scans of your previous pregnancies or current before 8 weeks. 

A couple of things you should know:

1) The study is based on the fact that when the blastocyst divides into embryo and placenta, there is a genetic difference in males and females that cause the make placenta to form to the right of the gestational sac and vice versa for the female.

2) In early scans, 6-8 weeks, the fetal pole is still very small and very closely attached to the future location of the placenta - so, while we can't actually see the placenta without color doppler, we can guess that the cord is attached where the placenta will be.  This is the chorionic villi.

3) This has nothing to do with a) which ovary you ovulated from; b) which side of the uterus the egg implanted into; c) where you feel kicking or cramps; d) where your placenta is at 8 weeks on. 

4) Ultrasound equipment allows the user to switch the view from transverse (left to right) to sagittal (up and down) and from left to right and vice versa.  In a dating scan, there is no need to flip the image and usually we can assume that the left side of your printed image is the right side of your body - but it's best to ask when your scan is being done.  Otherwise, all bets are off.  If it is flipped, the prediction will be opposite.  The sonographer can flip the image for both a transvaginal scan or a abdominal scan.  For some medical scans, the image is flipped to follow a medical convention - for instance, fetal head to the left, etc - to help the doctor orientate themself when looking at the scan. Since this is usually not indicated on the scan itself, just ask the technician or better yet, have them label your image.

It makes no difference if your image was taken vaginally (internal) or abdominally.  The whole "one is mirrored and the other is not" is not correct.

VISUALS

This is what it looks like with the embryo cells separate from the placental cells - there is a genetic difference between males and females where this separation takes place on opposite sides of the gestational sac:

This shows the chorionic villi - the actual method that maternal blood is transferred to the placenta - and waste is disposed through maternal blood.

This shows the blood flow on color doppler - the most reliable way of detecting chorionic villi:

A BOY:

A GIRL:

 This image shows how you can still see the chorionic villi by noting the decidual reaction in a b&w image:

Lastly, this image shows the various planes a scan can be imaged in:

CONFIRMED PREDICTIONS:

Justhangin' - Predicted , Confirmed  

MrsVirginia - Predicted , Confirmed

SarahKay - Predicted , Confirmed but sadly 

Brat - Predicted , Confirmed

Feelindown - Predicted , Confirmed

Lisa71775 Friend #1  - Predicted , Confirmed

Lisa71775 Friend #2 - Predicted , Confirmed

Hopingforalili Friend - Predicted , Confirmed

Myfabulouschildren Friend - Predicted , Confirmed

Stphm777 - 1st Pregnancy Predicted , confirmed

Goingfor3 Friend - Predicted , confirmed  

roonarpia - Predicted , Confirmed

Annie912 - Predicted   , Confirmed

Summerbabies - Predicted , Confirmed  

Shining - Predicted , Confirmed

MrsRaines - Predicted , Confirmed

BabyBeans - Predicted , Confirmed

Alsestis - Predicted , Confirmed

Healer612 - predicted , Confirmed (confirmed left sided placenta)

Waitingfordaisy - predicted , Confirmed

Nubsession DC1 - Predicted , Confirmed

PrettyDressesPlease DC - Predicted , Confirmed

Jen+4 - Predicted , Confirmed

Blessedwiththree - Predicted , Confirmed

Aqua Friend - Predicted , Confirmed  

amandajewels DC - Predicted , Confirmed

Natters - Predicted , Confirmed

Turtles - Predicted , Confirmed

LishandKev- Predicted , Confirmed

Regny - Predicted , Confirmed (right sided placenta?)

Plumkrazy DC1 - Predicted . Confirmed

Stphm779 - Predicted . Confirmed

nevertoolate1300 - Predicted (but questionable because of the twin sac), Confirmed

SunshineDreamer - Predicted , Confirmed

Sailorbaby - Predicted , Confirmed

SaltyXY - Predicted , Confirmed

Diegomydream - Predicted , Confirmed

Kamra - Predicted   , Confirmed

amandajewels  - Predicted , Confirmed

candycane - Predicted , Confirmed

Fourormore - Predicted , Confirmed

Leonji - Predicted 12 week transverse scan , Confirmed

Hopingforalily - Predicted , Confirmed

May17O3 - Predicted , Confirmed

Dricka - Predicted , Confirmed

Glitterbox - Predicted , Confirmed

Aqua - Predicted , Confirmed

Trustinghim4this - Predicted , Confirmed

Carlierenee - Predicted , Confirmed

Sparklygiraffe - Predicted , Confirmed

Mother_to_two - Predicted , Confirmed

Sandyk515 - Predicted , Confirmed

PreciousThoughts - Predicted   , Confirmed

Ren - Predicted , Confirmed

Goingfor3 - Predicted , Confirmed

alohaqt4 - Predicted , Confirmed

Poppy666 - Predicted , Confirmed

Amybbc - Predicted , Confirmed

nov2011 - Predicted , Confirmed

mybugs - Predicted , Confirmed

WAITING FOR CONFIRMATION:

al0911 Twins - Predicted

Miasmummy - Predicted

Lisa71775 - Predicted

Vanilliachai - Predicted

Kylensamuelnbump - Predicted

Snooka - Predicted

Veronica123 - Predicted

Twoboysandcounting - Predicted

Shawnalynn3 - Predicted

May17O3 - Predicted

Sweetlulu Friend - Predicted

Wishfulxx - Predicted

Lilas - Predicted

purplemonkey - Predicted

Mel-T  Friend - Predicted

Lisect - Predicted

tenesseeorange - Predicted

darlingdaughter2011 - Predicted , but sadly

October - Predicted

Bibble - Predicted

Maybeapinkbean - Predicted

MrsLuna - Predicted

Tulips - Predicted

ad0rkable - Predicted

tickleme - Predicted

HockyGrl - Predicted

Princessconsuela -  Predicted

crazydaisy0729 - Predicted

Brit Chick - Predicted

Dreamingofadaughter - Predicted  

Kimberleaf - Predicted

Erikakg - Predicted

Aabroo - Predicted - tech confirmed image was flipped

Brat23 - Predicted

Trinity985 - Predicted

Crazylife - Predicted

Snipsandsnails - Predicted

kerrie6 - Predicted

supak464 - Predicted

Aranjar - Predicted

lazamae - Predicted

angel0123  - Predicted

LeanneR - Predicted

mrsnbracey - Predicted

DreamingofXX - Predicted

Happy2BMe - Predicted

pricipessarosa - Predicted

aggiebutterfly - Predicted

plady2510 - Predicted

aj111907 - Predicted

 Hi Aqua, is it zoomed out?  Post it and let me know if it was internal or abdominal...

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 Actually, abdominal U/S are a mirror image.  So, if the placenta appears on the right, and you can clearly see where the cord is attached, then it is actually her left side and it's a girl!

...lucky.

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What happens if baby is at the top? My bean is. I'll post a pic just need to take one with my camera and I'll show you what I mean. Baby is upside down I mean.

 My scan was taking at 5 weeks 5 days bythe internal probe.  An abdominal scan would show the mirror image of what's going on in the womb.  So, if her's was abdominal, and the placement looks like my scan from above, then her's is a girl.

This is a transvaginal US, it's a photo of the picture so the right side of the photo is my left side.

 Justhangin - placenta to the right.  It's a boy... 

Baby_Maker:

What happens if baby is at the top? My bean is. I'll post a pic just need to take one with my camera and I'll show you what I mean. Baby is upside down I mean.

Sometimes it's hard to guess but the cord tends to bend one way or the other.  Post the pic!  Is it from this pregnancy or a previous?

This is my bean at 6 weeks 3 days (according to measurements). I know that looks like a twin sac but apparently it's a large SCH, they double checked it and don't think it's a twin.

 My SIL just sent me hers.  I'll bet she is real mad at me right now because I guessed boy and shejust KNOWS it's a girl.  I hope I'm wrong for her...

That's the pic hun. It's from this pregnancy.

 It's a boy - the SCH is pushing the sac up but the placenta is on the right.  It does look like twins!  On my friend's U/S with boy girl twins, twin A is pushing twin B's sac up the same way.