Moon Phases, biorhythms, Lunar phases etc etc...

SEU:

 I can help you with Lunar dates and Jonas dates. When do you want to TTC? 

Can you help me with Lunar dates and Jonas?  I am TTC Now - and then if nothing probably next June 2012.  TIA 

Hey Muffin. Yes you're right. Your calendar says boy on October 30th with your lunar ovulation, so obviously avoid this time when TTC girl. Your next lunar girl date is 28th/29th Nov (probably during the night between these dates), so you should BD at least 24 hrs prior to this and not after midday on the 29th Nov. After this, your next girl date is Jan 27th 2012.

Don't forget you can also get pg with your menstrual cycle O which looks like it is quite separate from your lunar one at this stage. It is harder to determine gender, but it does give you an extra chance to get pg each month, depending how much of a rush you're in. If you want to give the lunar theory a go, then obviously take precautions at other times in the month. GL with your sway.

Canadian, I don't think SEU is a member anymore. You can do a free Jonas/lunar calendar on astro.com.

On the left, click on ‘Free Horoscopes’, then on ‘Horoscope Drawings & Calculations’, then on ‘Extended Chart Selection’.

Up the top, enter your birth data, then click on ‘Special Charts’. Click on the drop down arrow where it says Astromap World and scroll down to the last option, ‘Lunar Phases Fertility Calendar’.

Your personalised calendar should appear and each month it shows in red your lunar fertile days (with the biggest red line matching your lunar ovulation day).

A boy or girl symbol will show if the gender can be determined. If a month or months are blank, it could go either way.

Hope this helps. GL.

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I'll check a little over a year ahead for you and find your strongest date for a girl. Winter has nothing to do with it, don't worry. 

Hey Canadian, when I did your chart (see below) it didn't show a gender for October. It shows your first girl date as Dec 18th. Anyway, regardless, I hope you get a BFP. Most people don't believe in the lunar theory at all. I think it is one part of the swaying puzzle. If you were doing other things to sway then you have given it a great shot. GL!

http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?cid=ch1filexkb0by-u1313027391&lang=e&gm=a2&nhor=5&btyp=95&sday=22&smon=10&syr=2011&hsy=0&rs=0

Hi Peony, I am new to this site and a little confused about all this.  I did my dates on the astro site you recommended, and for the next year the months alternate boy/girl/boy/girl/boy/girl etc- so basically I am meant to be able to conceive a girl every second month?  Is that the way it generally works?  I was born 16th October 1977 at 9:40pm in Sydney Australia.  Any light you can shed on this would be greatly appreciated.

 Thank you so much.

Hey Skyla. Nice to be able to say hi to a fellow Aussie! You are right, most people seem to go girl, boy, girl, etc each month. Some have 1 or more months with neither gender as they are borderline. You are due to have a lunar ovulation on the night of the 28th November (the biggest red line is between the 28th and 29th). To TTC with the lunar calendar you should BD at least 24 hrs prior to this (ie the night of the 27th Nov). The other days in red (leading up to the peak day) are also increasingly fertile days and are ok to BD on.

If your lunar ovulation day and your menstrual cycle O day occur at the same time, you are supposed to be extra fertile. If your lunar O day is during your period, you are also very fertile. If they are due to occur at different times of the month, you can TTC twice in the month, if they both occur in girl time of course. Have a look at the link which tells you girl and boy dates (they change approx every 2.5 days). IF you know when you are going to O with your menstrual cycle you can plan to BD if it occurs in girl time. You don't want to do it if the timing is very close to turning into boy time though as the important time is the moment of conception, which can occur a little after O. Adjust the time for where you are living. If you are still in Sydney, then just adjust to daylight saving time.

 http://www.fertility.com.au/downloads/Lunar_Zodiac_2011.pdf

I am happy to try and answer any more questions. I was totally new to all this earlier in the year, but have read a lot about it and now feel I have some sort of grasp on it all. It can be quite confusing at first. I am planning to include diet and my lunar calendar when I start TTC in Jan. I have already tried O+12 and lime douches but no luck with those. It can sometimes be a case of trying a few things to see what works for you. I am 34 as well! GL with it all.

Thank you so much Peony, I really appreciate you taking the time to help me, and yes, so lovely to meet another Aussie.  I have just starting researching all this swaying stuff and I m finding there is just so much information to sort through and grasp! And the girl diet seems pretty full on!  All that dairy! This forum is so great as it is lovely to chat to others in the same boat.

This lunar ovulation stuff is confusing as it is the first time I have ever heard you can get pregnant outside of your actual ovulation time... Is that really true?  Does that mean during a lunar ovulation you release another egg?  My OPK picked up a surge today so I'd say I will ovulate in the next few hours, but I am not nearly prepared enough to start ttc.  I just ordered a chart from Odan yesterday as I am wanting to this this all properly and give myself the best chance possible (as this will be our last baby). We won't ttc until next year.

 So you're saying you should BD 24 hours before your most fertile period (ie 24 hours before the 28th lunar ovulation) to ensure best chances of conceiving pink? 

Is the Lunar Zodiac Calendar (gender changes every 2.5 days) a completely different concept to the Lunar Phases Fertility Calendar (gender changes each month), or are they to be used in conjunction with each other?  I do still live in Sydney so will adjust times accordingly.

I was wondering about the O+12 thing and all the douching as those methods seem a little 'risky', so it's interesting to hear they didn't work for you.  Surely with O+12 you would have to know your cycle extremely well or you would miss the boat, and I would be worried that douching would kill all the sperm off!  Clearly I have a lot more research to do.

Thanks you so much! 

No prob Skyla. I know, it is very daunting when you first start on this site. There is heaps of good advice to sift through. The girl diet is pretty hard which is why people who have been swaying girl for a long time tend to drop a lot of it.

There have been some studies done which show that a woman can O more than once a month, and a lot of women get pg nowhere near their menstrual cycle O. I've read that Jonas discovered it while trying to help Catholic women avoid unwanted pregnancies. The women would BD during their period as they thought that was completely safe, but they were still getting pg. The lunar theory does not say that you will definitely O every month, but more that if you do have a lunar O, it will be at that date and time. BDing in the days leading up to the lunar O is supposed to cause the egg to be released, which would be why they say you must do it at least 24 hrs before O is due. There is quite a bit of info in the Odan websites FAQ. Your Odan calendar will tell you exactly what time to BD, and there are examples of the calendar on the website too, so you know what it will look like.

The lunar zodiac calendar matches your gender calendar. You can compare it with the dates from astro.com. It is extra helpful if you are TTC with your menstrual cycle O. For example, you got a +OPK today, so you would expect to O within the next 24-36 hrs. Because we are in boy time until late on the 4th, it seems likely that this month you would O in boy time. Once you keep track of your cycle for a few months, you might start to see a pattern before, during or after you O. I seem to O 30 hours after I get a +OPK, so I can decide if it is a good month to TTC a girl. I am going to TTC with my lunar calendar first but if I am not having any success, I will likely include both O times (if they are girl of course).

O+12 is very tricky to get right. It took me 3 months to know what my body was up to. Then even when I knew I had got it just right, it didn't work anyway! If you do your temps each morning it will help you confirm when you have O. I track mine on fertility friend. Also keep a close eye on your CM so you start to see a pattern of when you are highly fertile. A lot of women use their lunar dates and fertile CM checks to avoid getting pg. When used in combination, they are supposed to have a 98% success rate. Anyway, as you can tell I find all this fascinating. I have certainly learnt how to avoid getting pg, now I just need to switch it around and get pg (in 2012)!

Thanks Peony, you certainly know your stuff!  I'm not surprised a lot of people drop the diet, it looks really difficult... and I was only thinking about how hard it would be for 5 or 6 weeks!  I didn't think about having unsuccessful attempts and having to continue it (I fell pregnant first go with both my boys).

 That is so interesting re the lunar ovulation.  I will def look at the Odan FAQ page.  As confusing as all this lunar fertility stuff is, if it's accurate then it sounds magic!  Where can I find a lunar zodiac calendar for 2012 (or will Odan give me all that info? I went with the $77 Euro plan).

I will be so interested to hear how you go only BD on your lunar ovulation!  If you're successful I will definately be following suit. I think I will be getting into this like you have- I find it fascinating too!

BTW, did you buy a digital PH tester?  If so, which one and from where?  Also, did you get a basal thermometer?  Once again, what brand and where from?

Thanks again Peony.

No problem Skyla. There are plenty of people who don't believe in it at all. It just makes sense to me. Like how you can have a fairly even distribution of boys and girls in the world and how babies born at the same time can be different genders. After all, they only need to be conceived 2.5 days apart to be in different moon signs.

My calendar took 3 weeks to arrive from Odan. They say up to 4 weeks. I was so excited and then I read July 2012 was my best month and I thought 'but that's ages away'!

I bought a Digital Water pH Meter from Dick Smith. I have tested it on all sorts of things and it is very accurate. I bought it online and it comes with a small bottle of buffer solution and complete instructions. I think it was about $80 from memory. The digital O thermometers are easy to pick up at a chemist. Mine is Surgipack brand and was around $20 I think. (Just make sure it is an O one, not a normal digital thermometer!) I have used it every morning since March, so I feel like I know my body pretty well now!

The naturopath warned me not to do the diet for too long as a low salt diet can cause hypothyroidism,and that in turn can cause infertility. Keep in touch.

Yeah, I agree with you, it makes sense to me too and I think it's fabulous!  It's all so clever.

 I didn't realise the Odan calendars took so long!  Boo.  I am dying to receive mine.  I have requested my start date as February 2012 so there is no hurry anyway, but I am so incredibly curious to know my optimal pink conception dates!

 I just had a look and the Dick Smith Ph tester you recommended is on sale so I will order one today.  I will have a look for the Surgipack thermometer this weekend, so thank you SO much for your recommendations.

 That's pretty scary re the diet... I don't think any strict diet is healthy for long periods of time.  It just feels like the girl diet is all chicken and dairy- so rich!

Thank you so much for all the help Peony.  I am so interested in how your sway attempts will go, so please keep in touch too.

I know, it is so hard to be patient and wait for these things. Bear in mind it will be very similar to the one on astro.com, just with even more info.

Skyla, I just remembered you asked for 2012 chart through the zodiac. I do have one that the naturopath gave me but it does not appear to be online as yet. Maybe they'll put it on in the New Year? I could try and scan and email it to you but I'd need your email address. It's up to you.