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Good luck pray4princess!

How many time will you do the MS IUI before you'd consider the IVF/PGD?

I do hope you have success with  it though. I'd like to show DH instead of going thru IVF. 

 

I'm rooting for her too! If this works for her, then there is a possibility we might try it too. 

 Pink dust vibes headed your way princess! ~~~~~~~~~~

Thanks ladies! I think I will try it at least 3 times before moving on to ivfpgd with dr lin if need be. But let's pray there won't be such a need! I also hope it works for me so more ladies can use that success to convince dhs to go that route! I had a tough time convincing my dh and. Know how tough it. Can be and every little shred of success just might help!

Well I am glad I didn't cancel the trip/cycle. Dr. Rivera did an ultrasound yesterday afternoon and found that the lining was 7.8 and I had two dominant follicles, one at 15 and the other at 16.5. He had me take the trigger yesterday afternoon. I got a positive LH surge this morning on the home OPK. DH is off giving sample now and the IUI will be between 2 and 3 pm. He still has me on estrogen for a few days. I talked to Microsort and asked about the rates for success with Ingenes, and she didn't have the numbers for me. I asked about my purity sort from my June cycle, and she said that she didn't know, it still says "undetermined" which means they weren't able to figure it out because the cells got washed away or they just didn't do it yet. She said she would inquire into this. I said I would definitely like to know the purity for today's sort and June's sort. What if the purity is like 50% or something? I don't know if anyone else from Mexico got their purity stats, but I would be interested in hearing them. Microsort did confirm though that the rates for IUI were "very low". Whatever that means, but so far we are still going with that 2.2% number we figured out on this board a few weeks ago. By the way, if anyone is planning on taking their kids down here, you will have to take them to www.kidzania.com, the coolest place on earth for kids at the mall here by Ingenes in Mexico City. I got a tour and could have hung out there all day! Also, I would recommend at least taking a cab to the mall if you go at night because there are a lot of police cars out after dark with their lights on. Better to stay safe in the cab.

pray4princess - how'd the iui go? 

My DH give me the ok to try MS IUI in Mexico...he hates Mexico and thinks its a scary dirty place so  I show him what you write about Mexico.  I guess you are not doing much sight seeing?

How is the clinic with Dr Rivera? Is it clean? Do they seem organized? Is there  a line up of women out the door doing the Microsort?

Now i'm tempted to go book a cycle in September but I'm not sure. Do you think its worth it given the low pg rates and they cannot tell you the sort %?

Maybe we should just move to IVF but that terrifies me all the drugs, needles, etc.Plus the cost is insane!

Hi JackiesHope!

It went well, DH's sample was actually BETTER than last time- they transferred 350,000 this time as opposed to 310,000. The other stats were better on the sample, too. Dr. Rivera said it was a great sample.

I asked Microsort for their current stats and she couldn't give me any. She said she would have to get the numbers from their Guadalarja division, too. I also didn't get a purity sort % for this sample yet. She said last time there were not enough cells to get the percentage (???). She said to ask about this sort's purity in 2 weeks.

 There was no one else getting Microsort done yesterday except for me, but she said the next couple weeks would be busy. I asked if I was the only person to try twice so far, and she said, there have been others, but when someone comes back a third time they come back to try IVF/MS.  She didn't tell me success rates. To be fair, since I started dealing with MS earlier this year, there have been a lot of new employees. Adriana and Paulina are not there anymore, and Paulina was just there in June for my 1st cycle. The two women at the desk seemed to be newer employees, and possibly didn't know the stats.

Dr. Rivera's office is super modern and clean and busy. They are very organized. It is in a newer office skyscraper building, 3rd floor.

 They even let me lay down in the room for the egg retrievals after my IUI for as long as I wanted. I had already checked out of the hotel so couldn't go back there to lay down.

 Mexico City is very very polluted. I live in LA with some of the worst air in the world, and I was very bothered by the smog. The cabs like to drive with the windows down and usually don't have A/C (unless you take a big Chevy Surburban, which we did on the way to the hotel). The drive from the airport to Dr. Rivera and vice versa takes about an hour to almost an hour and half. My contacts and throat were hurting so bad from the air. It is very very dirty and poor and crowded in general, but like I have said before, the area by Dr. Rivera's and MS is very modern- lots of business people, new construction, largest luxury mall in Latin America, big new skyscrapers, etc. Poverty not as apparent by Dr. Rivera's. High police presence throughout the city. We did not do any sightseeing except go to the very nice mall everyday. We thought of going to the pyramids but didn't want to go north of the city for fear of drug violence. At no time did I feel threatened while I was there in the upscale Sante Fe district where MS and Ingenes/Dr. R are.

 I still think it is worth it to go down there for an IUI/MS, considering I am going back in October if this one doesn't work. But I don't want to think about it not working just yet - now for the torture of the two week wait!!

I am on my progesterone supplements starting today. Twice a day. Picked up a 4 week supply at the pharamacy by Dr. Rivera's.

What week in September might you go down there, Jackieshope? Did you talk or email with MS or Dr. Rivera yet?

Praying4myprincess, I too have been following your journey. We have 3 boys and want a girl so badly. Our baby is only 7 months old, so we want to wait till next summer. But we are in contact with the Ingenes facility right now, collecting information. I emailed Dr. Lara to ask questions and try to get stats. Hope to hear back soon. You did clomid, right? How do they prescribe that to you in the US? I too am from LA! I am leaning towards doing two IUI's in one cycle since they are offering 50% discount on the second. Why not? I am hoping and praying this works for you! It gives me hope :) Keep us posted!

pray4princess - thanks so much for you detailed reply. 

The dirt/smog sounds scary, but i"m glad Dr Rivera is on the safe/cleaner side of town.  Where did you stay during the IUI? Was it across the street at that hotel (stadiasuite?)

That office turnaround at Microsort lab is concerning. Every new employee has to start over from scratch and learn the procedure. And they don't know their stats or sort%? That seems very odd as you would think that they need  to be reporting back to GIVF....or maybe the stats are so bad they don't want to tell you?

 This facility is supposed to be operated/run by GIVF.  Or do they just set up shop and leave the country so the locals can run it?  I think it would be worth it for you to call GIVF and find out what they say about Mexico.  They should be giving you the sort % and if they mess up and can't tell you in 2 weeks I wouldn't go back.

I contacted MS lab in Mexico and they wrote me that they could give me the sort % in two days before the IUI (but the IUI sample would have to be frozen/thawed which would give even less chance of pregnancy).

Good luck. I hope you are testing soon! 

 

 

I stayed at the NH Hotels, which is right next door to Ingenes/MS. I think StadiaSuites is a few buildings down from there. I walked past it on Thursday. DH and I were going to check into StadiaSuites and what the place looked like and their rates but didn't have time. We are also satisfied with NH Hotel and the fact that a lot of the front desk speaks English.

I am not sure if the people that work the reception desk and answer the phone at MS also work in the lab. When I have went into their offices, if they are doing something in the lab, there are either two people in there or else there is one in the lab and a different one at the front desk. It would probably be good to find out if the people who answer the phone are actually the people who do the lab work, too. The current two women at the front desk are named Nadia and a name that starts with a "M".

JackiesHope, when you mention that the IUI sample would be frozen and thawed, does that mean that you would be sending your DH's frozen sample to the lab, or is that what MS told you would have to be done to get a sort % before an IUI? If you are in the US, I think you can't send a MS sorted sample BACK to the US for an IUI because of the FDA, and I think it might be the other way around, too? I read something about that possibly on the MS site? When are you planning your cycle JackiesHope?

praying4myprincess:

JackiesHope, when you mention that the IUI sample would be frozen and thawed, does that mean that you would be sending your DH's frozen sample to the lab, or is that what MS told you would have to be done to get a sort % before an IUI? If you are in the US, I think you can't send a MS sorted sample BACK to the US for an IUI because of the FDA, and I think it might be the other way around, too? I read something about that possibly on the MS site? When are you planning your cycle JackiesHope?

oh no! I would never send Microsort a frozen sample from the US.  I was asking Microsort if there was a way to know the sort % before the IUI (like the same day of the IUI) and they said  No!  But that DH could do his sample a couple days before the IUI (in Mexico), they would sort it that day, freeze it and then 2 days later when I have my IUI they could thaw the sample if I want and do the IUI after I find out the sort%....but of course that would be even lower pregancy rate and they did not recommend it. Its just an option if I HAVE to know before the IUI.

I was thinking of going around Labor Day but I'm waiting to see if you get pregnant first.  Dh wont' let me book anything unless i win the bet. He's convinced the Microsort is just way way too low odds of pregnancy after they told us 2%. He thinks it would be a waste of money. Maybe he's right but I still hope he's wrong.

Where ru flying from jackie? I've found the tix to mex city from la are half the price if you book them about 8 weeks in advance then booking at the last minute. I won't know my results until next week so I hope I have good news for u. That's another reason I spaced out the trips every 2 months to get a better deal on the plane tix.

P4P, you rock!  Thank you all for such great info...it helps so much.  I'm really frustrated right now with Ingenes actually.  From your reports I really want to work with them but I keep trying to get specific information  or paperwork and it takes them weeks to get back to me.  I wait each time a couple weeks for a reply to not seem pushy but then don't get a reply until I send another one.  Then their reply is short with a few lines of prices, quick answers and that they take a credit card. It makes me a little nervous because this is definitely a lot of money for us to put towards this.   I've been in touch with Karla Lomanaco and Martin Rivera.  Does anyone have any other contact information that might work better?  I'm planning on going the IVF/PGD route with MS with them.  Their prices are still way better than the US. I guess they are starting PGD sometime this next month?!   I would do the first week locally and then fly there for the rest.  Probably November...I have a 13 month old baby so I go back and forth a little on the right time but then don't want to wait too long either.  Thanks again for any help!  

Karma4Tatum - i'm sorry Microsort is not getting back to you.  I've had troubles getting proper responses from GIVF so it happens in US clinics as well.  I don't know if this is an option for you,  but maybe you can book a short 1-2 day trip to Mexico before you cycle so you can meet the Dr, have a look around at the clinic, see the lab etc etc.  That way, if you like what you see you will be more relaxed for your cycle (a good thing right?) and if you don't like what you see you can look at other clinics while there is still time. That's what I would do if i was gong to do IVF in Mexico...I'm one of those people who likes to know what i'm getting into before jumping in with my credit card.  

 

Pray4princess- its coming up so soon.  I am usually very regular with my periods (28 days) but my O days move around. Like this month I O on day 11 and last time it was day 13.  If i book too early then I'm wasting time around Mexico and paying for extra hotel $200/nite, so booking last minute cost the same as wasting time in Mexico.  I have airmiles so the flight should be free anyhow. 

 

You are welcome, Karma! What are they quoting you for IVF/PGD? I was only in contact with Dr. Rivera via email before I went down there the first time in June. For my second time down there, I emailed him and called him on his cell. I don't have any of the staff's email addresses. There is a person in the billing department who speaks English, but I don't know her email address. She is the one that helps process your payment. I actually didn't even know they take credit cards. I always paid them in pesos. I even only knew the range of how much the IUI cost from people on the IG board. I just went down there expecting it to be around 4000 pesos. Unfortunately, none of us on here have done IVF with Ingenes yet, so hopefully you will be able to provide the information for others on here.

pray4princess - any news? are you taking your temps? any more spotting?