Ringo, Mia, Mystie & Lou

You can still vent on here, girl! Go ahead!

Yes, I saw the other night that Mia was expecting another boy. She had a pretty decent sway too, but some peoples' body chemistries are so set for one or the other gender.

Hmm, I don't know a ton about IUGR, but I can look at some stuff when I am at work. I will be there the next 7 days. Just thinking though, I am not sure that would be an issue at age 10 from that. Some kids just have that. My brother has always been skinny skinny no matter what he did or ate. Same thing with a friend of mine. Some kids I guess are just meant to be peanuts. I'll let you know if I find anything though.

I know that some people are just really thin, but its so odd coming from either mine or Glens's geneology..  I've never understood why some kids are extremely picky eaters and why others can eat like little piggies and not be "bigger" than average-- especially with the activity level..  Morgan is somewhat active and SO picky about his food, he just refuses to even try it.. he says "my mouth wont let me swallow it" which is too weird for me. I mean I cant teach a kid how to chew his meat... and I know my cooking tastes good because everybody else eats it with praise and second helpings.  My mother figures theres some kind of corelation between his low birth weight and IUGR diagnosis with his small stature and habits now.  Parts of it make sense to me, his body survived when it shouldnt have-- his body learned how to cope with small amounts of nutrients and thus doesnt require that much to function even now at 7 yrs old.

 Then again, you may be right, its just his nature and nothing to do with his IUGR... but thats what Im curious about, if there are any studies where IUGR babies have grown up very small and excessively selective with their food consumption...

 Thanks for trying! Let me know if you find anything

 You are both really sweet to reply and not be mad at me I just really miss Lou I appreciate you were so understanding and I had no idea she said she may be back next year yet I do pray she keeps with that idea because I'd love to talk to her again and I want her to see my little one eventually and to keep up with her when she is able to concieve again and have a little one I'll pray every day  So like I said thank you both a lot you're really kind! I see why you were all friends same nice personality

I didn't realize it was more of his stature you were worried about, I thought just weight. So he is short for his age too? The only thing that comes to mind is mental issues, but like I said I will still look when I am at work. What you describe about his eating habits though does not sound of any concern. About my brother, he is the only one in the family like that, but he didn't have a height issue. He was just always thin as a rail. He is a very picky eater, but even when he ate higher fat foods it didn't do boo.

 Itabu - Lou is actually doing very well . That's sweet of you to inquire.

Itabu --- you are very sweet... Im sure Lou appreciates the thoughts her way.. I need to get my butt off the Facebook and email her myself I guess.

 Rings...  Im not exactly sure how tall he is but I know he's right about 49-50 inches.. he's 7 1/2.. and weighed last night at 44 lbs. he varies between 42 and 46 depending on how many meals I make in a row that he particularly likes! grrr..  He may not actually be in the lower percentile because I havent had him graphed in years...  is there a downloadable chart somewhere? you know the blue one where you put dots for the height and weight and see the curve of national averages or whatever..?

he has zero mental issues... no ADHD or anything like Tyler does... no delays at all, in fact he's on the upside of average like Kaytie.  Yeah, I dont usually worry WHAT he eats as long as he's eating... if he wants to live on peanut butter and pizza thats fine with me... but when he sits down next to me and I can hear his stomach growling I cant convince him that he needs to eat.  "I dont feel hungry"... but put any sort of candy, cookie or PICKLES in front of him and the child wont stop. LMAO. 

I guess none of it is an actual "Concern" more as a curiosity about the correlation between habits/stature and IUGR diagnosis at birth.. he was 36 weeks 4 days.. 4.0 lbs and 16 in -- they said they sized him at a 33 weeker... which was interesting because Cade being born at 33 weeks (twin) was 4.6 and 16 in... So because of the Lovenox injections I took daily, the twins were not underweight for their gestation at all..  Very glad for all the science behind the studies for IUGR and prevention... but when I lost Ceegan (before the twins, before the diagnosis) he was 29 weeks and sized way smaller at like 23 weeks.. he was stillborn at 1 lb 12 oz and like 14 in I think, I cant remember for sure on length

SO ANYWAY... how are you doing ??? did you find a sitter? Hubby all recovered? Have you thought any more about what month for TTC? Still thinking Dec, Jan? Did all your test results come in?

Today Im 8 dpo... nothing to report really.. my headcold is almost gone but I still have an occasional cough and voice is on the mend but still very rough.  I'd say maybe yesterday was an implantation dip but I'd be fooling myself... I have one of those every damn cycle - so obviously NOT.. or hasnt been... an implantation dip in the past.  But then I wondered something.. all those really strong symptoms I was having in the 2ww in the past months... I wonder if I actually was pg but it couldnt implant.... there may be just loads of scar tissue in there.  I wont dwell on it, but its possible.  If it ended up next year with no conception, I'd go in for some tests ... not too worried about it yet though.

Mystic-B:

 you know the blue one where you put dots for the height and weight and see the curve of national averages or whatever..?

Hmmm......I'm a bit insulted by this. lol

I looked at the growth chart and given he is 50inches and 44 pounds he falls into the 60-65% range which is just fine. Sometimes the percentages don't mean as much either as long as things are fine and they are following their own growth curve and nothing is way out there or changes quickly.

I'm doing well. We finally found a babysitter and she lives close to work and home. Her kids are patients here and I asked their nurse what she thought of mom and she said she seems like a good mom. So, that's good.

All my results came back and the only one off was the thyroid. I've been on the medication since Saturday and so far don't feel as tired, but still feel hot, but my heart rate has come down a tad. I am just going to chock up the hottness to increased muscle mass. It's sort of the only explanation and frankly, the one I like the sound of. My friend used to be a body builder and said she was hot all the time while she was doing it.

Yep, still thinking January for start date, but I am SOOOO scared and nervous. I just wish I didn't feel like that.

I'm not sure where I insulted you, but Im sorry...

 thanks for the information on his statistical growth - it sounds like he's not too far off... maybe he's just the tiniest one in the class cause the other kids are just bigger in nature.

The insult was when you felt you had to explain to me what a growth chart was when that is a staple in pediatric healthcare.

I don't even think he's "not too far off." I mean, 60-65% is great! Charlie has consistently been below 20% and I am not concerned at all and nor are either of his doctors. Even though he is that low he follows his own pattern which is reassuring. I am sure it is something simple like Morgan's classmates are just bigger. He might not have any classmates that are fussy eaters like him.

I did look at some documents at work and basically the only possible concern with growth and development is in the newborn/young infant stage, however, there are some people who were restricted and came out with some other issue where they didn't make enough growth hormone and were short stature, but this is not the case with Morgan. And then besides that they mentioned the same things I did before about possible residual mental or learning concerns.

thanks again... it is reassuring.

its been 5+ years since I saw one of those growth charts, I didnt know if they'd still be around in that format or if they were actually called growth charts so I wasnt aware that I was insulting you.

Don't worry about it. It didn't need this much discussion anyway. I was sort of joking about it in the first place, but you can't really tell that in writing.

Happy Thanksgiving, Rings.......

miss you ...

Im gonna stay away for another month or so.. i'll probably start logging back in the end of December when I start the diet/supps/etc again in prep for our February attempt...

I hope you're well....  I'll be around facebook.... HUGS

 Mystic & Ringo: I didn't respond because I didn't see you all responded and don't worry I'm not spying on your posts, I just saw you posted and realized I never checked back to see if you responded to what I'd posted previously. It's nice of you say I'm kind, and Lou was very kind to me so I just return the favor and I'm really praying she tries again because I'd love to see her with a new little one. It's nice you are all okay I wish you well and just will wait and check back periodically to see if she returns to in gender one day, maybe by next year.