Does anyone know about low estrogen?

I'm here obsessing about why I might not be getting pg and one thing I've noticed is that AF has been much lighter the past 2-3 months, only lasting 2-3 days. I also don't get 'high' readings anymore on my CBFM (the 'high' readings show increase in estrogen). So I'm putting 2 and 2 together and thinking maybe I need to do something about this?

Does anyone have any experience of this or could advise?

I do O regularly and my cycles are about 30 days long. I have also been taking soy the last few months (surely this helps with estrogen?).

What could I take to improve things? I'm worried my lining is too thin now to support a pg.

Thanks for your help ladies

I wish I could help but I know nothing about high or low estrogen.  Sorry...surely, someone on here will know about it.

Thanks PD

You read a lot on here about low progesteone but nothing about estrogen, maybe it just isn't a problem? I'd just like to make sure everything is OK if you know what I mean. It is hard not to obsess about every little detail lol.

when are you taking soy?  what days?  do you have any pain with ovulation?

having lighter periods and shorter typically is not a good thing.  It can be an indicator of early menopause.  I know 2 people who this happened to at age 28 and one at 32 :(

I will look at your chart. 

 Well I can tell you that lighter periods usually don't indicate low estrogen.  Before my D&C and while going through my IVF cycles my periods would maybe last 2 days.  I would have medium flow for about 1.5 days and then spot for about 1-1.5 days but my lining was always nice and plush.  So for me that has nothing to do with it.  Lighter and heavier flows could indicate other things though.  Have you had your thyroid checked?  I know you can't go to the doc yet to get help but maybe they could check your thyroid?  That can effect your flow.  

Other things to increase estrogen sway boy but I highly recommend the Royal Jelly Bee Pollen.  I wish I could keep track of everyone so I am sorry I have I have suggested this before.  My brain feels like mush alot of times!  The soy should definitely help.  Progesterone in the 2ww is also what keeps your lining plush and estrogen in the follicular phase is what builds it up.  If both of those things are out of whack or one of them is then your lining doesn't get thick or stay thick which is the biggest problem.  

The fact that you no longer get highs on your CBFM may mean you aren't getting high enough LH surges but I don't know that for sure.  Your regular doc can't give you clomid with a trigger shot can they?

your luteal was too short in Sept with ovulating so late, you should have not had a drop in temp on day 9.  it should have been later like day 12, then af on day 14 or 15.  your temps are pretty high in the beginning of the cycle though which can indeed mean high progesterone and low estrogen. 

your temps this cycle are great and show no signs of low progesterone.

this is only off temps, obvioulsy I cannot know everything, unless you had some blood work done.

also can you add in the days you are doing attempts?  it is not shown on your chart. what about mucus?  do you get any eggwhites?  that can be a sign of low estrogen as well.

you probably should try vitex vs soy and stop at the time ovulation is suppose to happen.  I do not think vitex should be taken after ovulation as some women said they have done.

Alright..I have a question.  For ttc , you want high progesterone, low estrogen, & low testosterone...is that correct? How do you know which you have? Can you tell it by looking at your chart alone?  I definitely have low estrogen...I don't get to the egg white cm.

well to ovulate no matter what you need high estrogen and low progesterone.   then is switches after you ovulate.  you if you are too high on progesterone, you may not ovulate anyway cause your body falsely believes you are preggo. 

Thanks so much for your responses. I really appreciate you taking the time over this. to answer some of your Q's.

I take soy (first month on 'proper' 80mg dose, day 4-8)

Been taking RJ/BP supps for about 2 months.

Didn't used to get EW but do with soy. Do have O pains.

I agree I need to get blood tests and will ask about thyroid as this has been something I have been thinking about for a bit (thyroid probs can cause m/c so that may have been a reason for me).

Thanks again ladies, I don't know if I feel better, just more to think about/ worry about!!!....I wish all this was easier lol.

babymaker:

your luteal was too short in Sept with ovulating so late, you should have not had a drop in temp on day 9.  it should have been later like day 12, then af on day 14 or 15.  your temps are pretty high in the beginning of the cycle though which can indeed mean high progesterone and low estrogen. 

Do you also think I should take vitex instead of soy (I have only been getting EWCM since taking soy).

I have also never had longer than 13 day LP, often 12 days long, is this too short??!!

Thanks babymaker for looking at my charts, it means so much

well 12 days may be average to some... But I think 14 is best.  BECAUSE when you have a 12 and drop that day, its fine.  but if your temp drops at day 9 or 10, when some implant, the baby would just have no chance.  so you ccan get preggo but the light is already off so nothing to keep the baby "warm."  (like an incubator)

you are getting Egg white mucus cause of the soy/estrogen.  you need high estrogen right before ovulation, so this is good! or take isoflavones

if that works, don't change it.

and if your end part of cycle has a drop at 9 or 10 days, you need progesterone.  so cream, b6 or prometrium.

sometimes just taking supps for 2-3 month will get you back on track.

heck I have moms has post bleeding for weeks, I see them, give them herbs for 2 days and they are back to norm till their normal cycle will return.

sometimes bodies need a little push to be "balanced."

Thanks for responding Babymaker, really appreciate you taking the time. It is hard not to worry. I usually have high temps right up to day AF shows so I don't think I have a problem on that end of the cycle, just the first part when the lining builds itself up (isn't that estrogen linked?), just think there is nothing for baby to implant in.

Thanks for all your help, really hope this cycle is the one for you!

thanks for your reply too Michaela

I am taking RJ/BP on your advice, it is great! (I think!). Thanks for explaining everything so clearly. So to increase estrogen in follicular phase (which is what I feel I need to do) is taking soy enough? should I be taking more to increase estrogen? I started FUR last cycle, might this help?

TIA