SU/MSU Experimenters Buddy Group-July 2009

I had a terrible guest come this AM..... AF!!  I don't know what to think, I guess a part of me was sure that I was pg... but then the part was not so sure.  Oh well, not too much I can do now.

The part that bugs me the most is this is our last attempt (coming July 20th or so) before we have to go off the diet so we will miss August and then September and onward DH is off working.  This really sucks!  I don't know when we will be able to make another attempt.  Maybe this is just not meant to be for me.  I know that I will get pg if I just do things naturally but then my odds are no where near as good as with SU.  I guess I should just be happy that I have as many healthy children as I do but I want my GIRL!!!!  [:'(]

I am so sorry babyboba....that eally sucks!!!  Remember that it does take awhile to get that little girl....we have boys remember how easy that was so we now have to deal with the flip side I guess!!!  Here's to next month....I may be joining you too....I have ooh, like 5 more days until I can even test!!!!  See, I feel like you did...like this is the month.  I feel strange right now, but I am sure AF will just bring me down!!!

Sorry BabyB!  It really sucks when AF shows up uninvited!  I feel for you!  [HUGS]

I am feeling that af will be on her way for me too.  I'm not really feeling too positive whether I'm pg or not.  It sucks but not surprising either since I've not had much luck.  We'll be trying for 2 more months & then will have to take a break (which is a little annoying to me)...but I agreed reluctantly.  I just really pray that I'm pg by then. 

Thank you two very much for your kind words.  It is so very hard.  August will be exactly one year since we have been trying.  How depressing does that sound!!

I wish that I knew what I was doing wrong... I know now that the sugar water was the reason that I was not getting pg before but now there really should be no excuse....  I am so unsure about the lime as well, I know that my pH is around 4.5 when we make our attempts it will shoot up to about 5.5 so I do the lime douche but I think that this is lowering it wayyyy too much.  My last attempt it went down to 3ish when I did the half hour douche maybe this was the problem... hmmmmm just wish that I could figure this all out.

 so sorry BBDOO!!! I hope next time is the charm! praying for you...

BabyB...I wonder about the lime all the time.  We are in the same boat with that.  I have managed in the last 6 plus months to get a consistant ph in the 4's. I did NOT use lime this time beforehand( I used replens leading up to O) and then during a spike in PH, I used 1 time ONLY 3ml of lime/distilled water and 1 time replens.  That is all I needed....my ph stayed way low....4.0.  So, we will see...right?  I have had pains and cramps the last few days....so AF is coming or I am preggo.  I really dont have alot of confidence about being preggo because I am on month 5 now!!!  Maybe someone can help those of us that have really low ph, but don't want to cut anything out!!  Is there a way we can raise our ph a little higher beforehand, only to bring it down with the lime or lime douches?  I noticed that the lime in my diva cup with the sperm keeps my ph low, so therefore cutting out the douche was okay for me to do because the lime was still in the diva cup!  But, then I wonder if at some point it gets too low for the sperm to survive!!  Gosh, I am talking in circles right now because I have no idea what to change either!!!!  So, anyways, if this is not my month AGAIN, then I only have two more months at this as I agreed to that with my dh.  Maybe it will be a nice break and then I can talk him into it again, but I hope that I do get preggo so I don't have to think about that!!!  Right!!   What we go through!!!!!!  Cheer up ladies......we just have to keep trucking forward!!!!  We are like the little train that couldn't.....but WE CAN!!!!!  Just keep repeating YES, WE CAN!!!!!

I am so sorry Babybobadoo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Here is my thought on the lime: If your ph is already so low why do the douche? Maybe do the 7% vinegar douche instead..it has a higher ph. That way you will know that your ph is not going too low. I know you can get pregnant with lime, but maybe you and Luv are just dropping your ph too low with the lime on top of an already very low ph of your body.

YES WE CAN, with a little tweaking..... LOL

I normally do not add the lime to the Diva Cup at all I just do the follow-up douche, all that I did was clean the diva cup with the lime.  next time I will use a lime juice mixture of 4.5ish and rinse the diva cup with that instead of actually putting drops in.  The last time I used the lime juice with a pH of 2 so I know that was probably not good.

Luvr4boyz - you say that you will be taking 2 months off, is this because of the diet or just a personal choice?

rachel idris:

Maybe do the 7% vinegar douche instead

I am so afraid of this as it may increase my pH and I certainly don't want that, if you check before hand will it always either lower it or increase it.  What if your body chemistry changes and one time it lowers it and the next it raises it?  I am just so scared as this may be my last chance....

Hi BabyB....no my dh and I made a deal and well, my end of the deal is almost up.  He only wanted to do this for 6 months and then call it quits!!!  I am hoping that I can talk him into more, but not right away for obvious reasons.... this is draining and NOT very fun in regards to our sex life!!!!  So I am just trying to be so positive right now and pray that I get pregnant this month or next!!!!  Why are you not adding lime to your SU???  I did my SU....then added lime in the diva cup to the SU.  I also did SU on another attempt and mixed lime and inserted with a syringe and not diva cup!!!  I have done both!!!  Today, I feel really crampy....AF is not due till the 17th or 18th but I just feel like it is coming!!  I am so sad!!!  I did SU/TBM twice last Wed. and O'd Friday and did another 0+12 attempt.  So, I am 6dpo.....I feel like these last 6 days has been forever!!!!  I am just NOT going to test because...WHY!!  If I am preggo, then I will know when af doesn't show and if I am not preggo, then why torture myself with analyzing the pregnancy test!!!!  Right!!!  So, if my little girl has implanted and on her way, then I will know in 10 days!!

BabyBobadoo:

I had a terrible guest come this AM..... AF!!

Oh no!!! So sorry - FX for this month then

I'm needing a little support...today has been an extremely hard day.  I have been trying to keep myself busy during this 2ww...cleaning, playing with my kids, etc.  So, while I am extremely emotional waiting for a bfp or af to arrive in the next 3-4 days or so...my mom just made it official that she is filing for divorce with the rest of my extended family.  I knew that it was coming & also know that it had to be done.  I am torn...I feel happy for her that she's come to a decision that brings her peace & happiness.  But, there is a kid in me that wants her parents to be married.  I know that there is no love left & definitely no trust...it's just hard to imagine a 37 year marriage coming to an end.  I know that it will be better for both of them in the end but it still makes me sad. kwim?  My dh's parents divorced when he was very young so he doesn't remember much.  I just don't know how to deal with the whole situation.  Any advice? 

 PD~ Sorry for the hardship your famiy is going thru. It must be very hard to see your parents splitting after a nearly 4 decade-long marriage.  I don't know what it must be like... my parents divorced when I was 5 and I only remember bits and pieces.  I hope that for the sake of u and your family, the divorce is as amicable as possible.  Take care of yourself!!

That's part of the problem...I highly doubt that my dad will make things amicable.  I know that after the divorce is final...my mom does not have any other family other than the one that she is married to.  Her mom is in a nursing home & not aging very well. She barely remembers anything anymore. 

I am so sorry PD!!!  I know it must be hard, but remember that they will ALWAYS be your parents!!!  Maybe they will be happier and you want them to be happy, right?  Life is so short and you never know what is around the corner.  Now don't you want to be happy before you go?  I do!!  So, think of it as they've shared a good amount of their lives together and now it is time for a new chapter.  I too am struggling with something today.  My brother is NOT doing well.  I am very worried for him with his thoughts and what he may do.  He started telling me how messed up the world is and how people have no values anymore and that he is trying to find that stuff Michael Jackson took.  His words were"what a great way to go...go to sleep and never wake up".  I talked to him for a while, and having a Master's in Psychology, I felt that it was my responsibility.  I know he is my brother, but I took a more "therapy" approach instead of "your my brother" approach because I would be a lot harder on him and mad that he would say these things!!  I am so worried....I dont see him a lot....so I am so sad as to what he may do.  He has been living in my parents 2nd home for free practically after his divorce.  He had a mid-life crises and quit his 20 yr job because he is a musician and wanted to ONLY do his music, so he is on this weird path right now.  My mom is so mad that he is talking like this to me and is saying that she is tired of supporting him (he is 40) but she has been for a year now.  I am so caught in the middle......so, today must just be one of those days!!!!  Wouldn't it be great if we both got BFP's to give some sort of happiness!!!