SU/MSU Experimenters Buddy Group-July 2009

I too am looking to try mesh if I have another attempt.  I'll should know tomorrow if AF starts.  I have to say I've looked everywhere for the plastic tea strainer that was recommended.  I bought a metal one today but now as I'm thinking about it, the metal might get too hot when in the incubator so maybe that's why plastic is the way. 

Any other mesh ideas or where I could find plastic without having to order online?!  Bobadoo, all sounds great, hang in there.  I'll definitely try to check out pics.

I'm sorry that I can't help ladies with the mesh issue.  I never tried it. 

As far as this 2ww goes, it really sucks!  I'm at the 5-6dpo (I O'd Wednesday between 2-10am sometime)...FF says 6 days but it says that I O'd on Tuesday.  I'm somewhere in there.  I actually picked up an outfit today...which I never do.  I don't want to tease myself but just had this urge that I couldn't resist.   My boys keep insisting that I give them a sister and the only thing that I can say is...you have to ask God for that one since babies come from Him (I have no clue as to what else to say, kwim?)  I went in this month with a que sera, sera attitude...whatever will be, will be.  I do what i have to do and if I get pg, then I get pg.  Am I being too laid back about it?  Then, my temps go all funky a couple days ago & then I start obsessing... I feel like I am all over the "charts" with my emotions.  One other quick q, what do you all think of my temps now? 

BabyBobadoo:

Thank you ladies for your kind words and encouragment but I think that AF is just around the corner.... 

Sorry to hear that BabyBobadoo~ Hang in there!  I can't speak from experience since I haven't started my real attempts but I can imagine how frustrating that must be.  You are so helpful to all the EGS-ers..(especially the newbies like me).    

hopefull2009:

I too am looking to try mesh if I have another attempt.  I'll should know tomorrow if AF starts.  I have to say I've looked everywhere for the plastic tea strainer that was recommended.  I bought a metal one today but now as I'm thinking about it, the metal might get too hot when in the incubator so maybe that's why plastic is the way. 

Any other mesh ideas or where I could find plastic without having to order online?!  Bobadoo, all sounds great, hang in there.  I'll definitely try to check out pics.

Metal gets too hot..just like you thought. I use a mesh underwear that I found in my drawer. If I saturate it in ew before my attempt then it doesn't absorb all the ew or semen. And in fact I have skipped putting it ew before hand a couple of times and it still seems fine. I know a lot of sperm get caught up in the mesh but I asume those are y's. They would be in the ew on top if they hadn't got caught in the mesh so I don't want them anyway. KWIM? My underwear are like a fish net stocking but the holes are smaller.

I am sorry PD that you are feeling this way  I know....it is so frustrating!!!  I know nothing about the chart thing as I dont chart myself....I know that If I did, I would just have one more thing to obsess about!!!  KWIM!!!  I feel ya though!!!  I am just thinking if this does NOT work again....what can I possibly do different next time??  Where are my errors???  This sucks so bad because my ph is right on and then I will eat something (on the diet) and then my ph will go just below 4 and then I wonder if It was all screwed up now!!!  Today for me...I am 2 or 3 DPO....cramping...sharp twinges...all the same symptoms I get every month I think I am preggo and then AF shows up!!!  I really felt good about this month, but now I am doubting myself again.  This month I cut the douches...not entirely but I was much more careful.  I also used replens this month that was different for me...which dropped my ph down nicely when needed.  I did not douche before hand and did not take cranberry, but did drink cranberry juice when needed and craisins.  I also left the Diva cup in like 11 hours or something like that...which the ph was still low each time I checked!!!  That amazed me after 11 hours!!!  So, I did do a few things different...oh and I did cut-offs this month too!!  I don't know what else I can do!!!  I do know that I cannot do this much longer....I am exhausted!!!  I think I can do one more month before I crack!!!  And that will be next month with maybe one attempt!!  I am burned out over here!!!  I am so emotional today too because it just seems like everyone gets what they want.  I mean I am so blessed...I am very happy and grateful for all I have, but why is something so small to ask for, so hard for me to get.  A friend of mine is having her first baby and her DH only wants 2 girls and thats it.  We all joked that "well, that's something we cannot control".  Then she said that her dh wants to try again when the baby is 6 mos. if it's a boy!!  Well, god was in his favor because low and behold "It's a girl".  See, how some people just get what they ask for.  I don't know what I did in a previous life or what god has planned for me, but I wish that with as many babies as I have that he would just grant me this......and soon because I am just so tired of feeling this way!!!!  Sorry ladies....my emotions are just on a roll today!!!

Thanks Rachel.. not a bad idea to soak in a little EW-that doesn't make it too heavy?  I think I'll go sifting through my husbands swim shorts and steal a little piece. I liked the idea of plastic being something I could place easier, but I guess it's all about patience either way.  I was pastureizing eggs today when he came home and he had a good laugh.  I actually think sperm getting stuck in the mesh would be a good thing.  I don't want them either, those silly Y's .  Right now I have this little glimmer of hope, but at the same time today felt a little bummed for no reason which tells me it's probably a little PMS and that my AF will arrive tomorrow.  I feel like a little full in my belly or something.  The bright side of things is maybe I'll get a better sway since I'm off to use mesh this time instead of SD.  One thing I do like about SD is I won't have the problem of the EW falling into the sperm while it's in the incubator, but I know SU's better. 

L4B- you sound stressed.  How many months have you been trying.  I think it might help to go through past attempts and see how many months it took people.  It might help to see others that were in the same boat as you.  With 4 boys you obviously get pregnant really easily so I say endure babe...hang in there and don't give up!  We're all rootin for you.

rachel idris:

When I did the mesh the ew soaked into the mesh but did not sink. Did yours sink??

This is what was strange all of the EW seemed to have soaked into the mesh(I used a huge piece as I had to push it into a tight fitting TT and this way it did not slip away from the top of the TT it stayed in place) there was just a small glob left nothing that I could even get onto the slide to view under the scope.  I have no idea if it sunk or not as I think that it just got absorbed completely as I did not notice anything mixed in with the semen

I have never acutally seen the black sperm, just nothing moving.    Have you??

rachel idris:

Why don't you do an experiment with lime to see if they wake up after 30-45 minutes?

I am going to have to do this as I just don`t seem to have any luck with the lime.  The pH dropped below 3 after the half hour so I am still praying that maybe a fast little X made it through to the finish line!!

hopefull2009:

Any other mesh ideas or where I could find plastic without having to order online?! 

Try a dollar store.... I found a coffee strainer that cost a buck and I think that it would work perfect.  The mesh is relly thin so the EW does not soak through and will not absorb anything I have not tried it yet as I think I will have troubles with the size of my TT but it sure seems that it would work great.

Good Luck

kelchay:

You are so helpful to all the EGS-ers..(especially the newbies like me).    

Thank you so much for saying that... if I can even help a tiny bit then I feel happy. 

Luvr4boyz I am right there beside you girl!!  I feel your pain.  My sister just had her 3rd girl!!!  Everytime I hear her say SHE I get a little more depressed.  It is so hard when you hear that someone else has had a girl and it seems that all I have are boys.  I wanted to have the three girls and now I am struggling with SU and diet and she didn`t have to do anything. 

Something that we who are TTC girl need to remember is that the diet is very grueling.  I think that it is sucking out our energy and when we get the BFN then it sucks just a little more. 

PD I wish that I could be more helpful with your charts but I look at my own and go HUH!

L4B - I feel your pain too! I haven't even done a real attempt and I have had it! Stupid diet!!! My friend sway a little for a boy (BD on O day) and is expecting her second girl. It just sucks!!! Hang on in there......

I also tried pushing a big peice of mesh down into a tt and it caused all the ew and sperm to be absorbed. So instead I cut the tt to the size of the sample with just a little bit of room to shove a bottle nipple, cut at a 45 degree angle and wrapped in mesh, down into the tt. The bottle nipple was then filled with ew. It worked perfect!!!!

I have seen black sperm. When they are not moving they are still alive, when they are balck they are dead.

Babybobadoo- you have helped LOTS of people!!!! Including me! You are a babe. I just hope and pray that you get pregnant very very soon. You deserve it!

No, I am not stressed....just tired of NOT getting preggo!  But I will just have to perfect it agin next month if AF shows!!!!   I will use the mesh maybe next month, although I worry about the lime!!!  But I will not throw any of that out!!!

I hear ya Luvr4boyz on the frustration.  I think that I've come to the conclusion that there is no perfect attempt.   Don't get me wrong, I think that we can get close....but nothing ever turns out perfect.  kwim?  I have began debating the lime as well since I'm not getting pg quickly either but know that I can't drop that....I just despise the never ending circles that our brains do trying to figure this out, what will get us our desired gender. kwim? 

Bobadoo, thanks for the dollar store idea, also have to say the bottle nipple piece is a great idea as well.  On a side not what does KWIM mean?  I keep seeing it and have an idea but don't know.

L4B- you sound like me. I'm bummin'.  I am supposed to get AF today.  Haven't yet but there's a little tint of brown and I can' help but hope "implantation bleeding" but my temp was down this morning to 98.0 so I'm betting AF is on it's way...BOO.  I am so sick of the diet.  I took a major break during the 2ww, I seriously needed it.  It's been 3+ months eating the same thing.  I am trying to get back on it but am definitely losing steam.  I know I'll be so mad at myself, but at the same time it's so hard to keep doing it.  I dread all the rice milk I drink every day and the nasty bread.  I still like creamy noodles so that's good.    I also just want to go to sleep after DH and I BD, but I can't..nope have to experiment!  It's draining.  Never mind the fact that with my son we got pregnant right away and now we'll be on our 3rd cycle, I feel like I'm NEVER going to get pregnant this way either.  Sorry I'm venting a little....well A LOT.   I also feel conflicted sometimes on wanting a girl when I look at my son and he's so cute and great.  I just can't help it.

hopefull2009:

  On a side not what does KWIM mean?  I keep seeing it and have an idea but don't know.

KWIM is short for 'know what I mean?'.