Gender Disappointment

Re: Blog post about son dressing as a girl character on Halloween

Sunrise — Tue, 09 Nov 2010 17:52:47 GMT

I would agree with that, grits. If you don't ascribe to the beliefs of a religion, why are you sending your child to their school? The mothers' reactions were out-of-line, but it does sound like the blogger was begging to make a scene.

Re: Blog post about son dressing as a girl character on Halloween

grits — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 16:30:14 GMT

queen-of-harts:
Well i would bet that the religions that oppose females wearing pants also oppose dressing up in Halloween costumes at all.

Perhaps. I'm not familiar enough with them to say for certain. If a religion is opposed to a certain behavior then the blogger should expect some shade when engaged in tha behavior. The question mark (in my mind) is why support the religion that opposes the conduct, be it her little boy dressed up as Daphne or her little girl walking in the room in khakis, if she disagrees so vehemently?

It's not about homophobia as she tries to assert. It's about conduct unbecoming according to the beliefs of that religion (in my opinion).

Re: Blog post about son dressing as a girl character on Halloween

queen-of-harts — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 16:24:40 GMT

Well i would bet that the religions that oppose females wearing pants also oppose dressing up in Halloween costumes at all.

Re: Blog post about son dressing as a girl character on Halloween

queen-of-harts — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 16:18:56 GMT

everyday:

Let's just say if one of my boys turned out to be gay, I wouldn't be disappointed. He would literally be the girl I never had.

I wont be either but if one turns out to be a crossdresser im going to be super pissed because i have been wanting to buy girl clothes for 14 years lol

Re: Blog post about son dressing as a girl character on Halloween

snipsnsnailsx5 — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 15:05:00 GMT

I haven't read the replies - but I wanted to answer this question posed:

Rein&Sonshines:

Here's a question: What if you're Caucasian, and your child wants to be a black character for Halloween? Would you let him, or insist that this can offend others and may not be appropriate? I guess that's the best comparison I can think of as it goes along the lines of "I don't chose to be gay" just as much as a person doesn't chose to be their race.

That's not a comparison at all. Because a white child dressing up like a black child would hurt and offend an African American. As a card carrying girl, a little boy dressed as a girl would NOT offend me. ;) Maybe it does offend some women, however its not in the same way that a white child dressing like a black child would offend an African American person. Rather, those offended women are basing their offense on the their religous views or moral opinions. Its not that it offends them to see someone mocking their gender, but rather it offends them because a BOY is doing it and boys should only be manly and grow up to be men who bring home the bacon, take care of their wives and keep them barefoot and pregnant.... Really? LOL

FYI - My husband dressed like a girl for Halloween when he was in 8th grade. So what?

If my son wanted to dress like a girl for Halloween...cool! I'd be proud that he was so creative and comfortable enough with himself to think of that. Its a great quality to not be concerned about what society might think about you...to be your own person.

Re: Blog post about son dressing as a girl character on Halloween

grits — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 03:01:52 GMT

crystalb:
My 5 year old plays with his sister all the time. Dresses up in her princess dresses. My oldest son was a bearded lady for Halloween. I think its ridiculous that people even thought twice about his costume. And nothing is gonna "turn him gay".

Funny at my friends school a 5 year old little girl was Spiderman. No one thought twice about it. I really don't think dressing up as spiderman will "turn her gay".

I do think there is a double standard though. Its ok for girls to dress boyish but if a boy dresses girlish its making the boy turn gay.

Just my

That's not entirely true where I live. I can think of a few religions that are opposed to women wearing pants. So a little girl dressed as a boy would be just as inappropriate to them.

Re: Blog post about son dressing as a girl character on Halloween

everyday — Mon, 08 Nov 2010 02:41:13 GMT

Let's just say if one of my boys turned out to be gay, I wouldn't be disappointed. He would literally be the girl I never had.

Re: Blog post about son dressing as a girl character on Halloween

crystalb — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 15:51:04 GMT

My 5 year old plays with his sister all the time. Dresses up in her princess dresses. My oldest son was a bearded lady for Halloween. I think its ridiculous that people even thought twice about his costume. And nothing is gonna "turn him gay".

Funny at my friends school a 5 year old little girl was Spiderman. No one thought twice about it. I really don't think dressing up as spiderman will "turn her gay".

I do think there is a double standard though. Its ok for girls to dress boyish but if a boy dresses girlish its making the boy turn gay.

Just my

Re: Blog post about son dressing as a girl character on Halloween

atomic sagebrush — Sun, 07 Nov 2010 15:20:47 GMT

Cherry Mary:
that child's play won't turn them gay, and I think my ils got the point!

I completely agree with you 10000% absolutely.

Re: Blog post about son dressing as a girl character on Halloween

Tangerine Sky — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 02:47:36 GMT

I liked the post, I did find it weird that she was the one to call him gay, kinda trying to make it an even bigger deal than it actually was in his preschool. I do disagree though that * most* people would not be bothered by it, because i live in a very liberal area and i think many people would give looks/ comments. Anyway, I posted it because it kinda hit home as I recently went through an incident with dh's family about a " doll house" my ds wants and him getting the " gay" label ( jokingly apparently). I felt it was worded well in telling ignorant people that child's play won't turn them gay, and I think my ils got the point!

Re: Blog post about son dressing as a girl character on Halloween

kiwimum — Sat, 06 Nov 2010 02:20:43 GMT

atomic sagebrush:
I really hope that people from other corners of the globe don't make sweeping generalizations about the nature of Americans on the basis of one blog post, or even several. Most Americans are very nice and perfectly open minded regardless of what the media might have you believe.

I totally agree. I have loads of friends who are American and are wonderful.......but I do notice a huge number of posts on here which base their desire for a certain gender on the most antiquated stereotypes and what with this blog post, I stupidly put two and two together and got five! (where's the peace symbol when you need it?!)

I don't get the suggestion that she forced him at all.....if my kids chose a costume and I paid lots of money for it, I'd be reluctant to buy them another one, especially when I knew that they loved the costume and their slight reservations were based on what a few people might think. I am trying to teach my children not to worry what others think- especially when they are WRONG!

And the reference to him being gay was tongue in cheek surely?? I think it is a great piece of writing that has sparked a worthwhile debate....all good. Would love to know if Mums A,B, and C have read it???

Re: Blog post about son dressing as a girl character on Halloween

Beebs$ — Fri, 05 Nov 2010 20:11:08 GMT

Michaela:
Beebs$:
Or blogged.
Can you imagine what that poor little boy is going through now that his cute adorable picture is up for everyone to sit and scrutinize? I for one don't care what he is wearing but we all know some do and obviously some feel the need to tell her about it.

Yep. But it's cool though because she standing up for, uh... Um. Gay rights? No, wait. Gender equality? Um... Tolerance? Free will? Not being a bitchy Kindergarten mom maybe? I'm actually not sure at this point. Whatever it is, she's getting a lot of attention. We're still talking about her! Good for her. Mission accomplished, I suppose.

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kora___ — Fri, 05 Nov 2010 20:02:59 GMT

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Re: Blog post about son dressing as a girl character on Halloween

desperateforalittlebuoy — Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:28:51 GMT

I agree, something fishy about it. Maybe the mother is looking for attention or she has infringed her issues on him. And the parent is supposed to instill some sort of control to the child. Anyway that Lady GaGa pic is hilarious and the skeptical dog! Classic!

P.S There should be a thread on the GD board for funny, random pics to cheer people up.

Re: Blog post about son dressing as a girl character on Halloween

Beebs$ — Fri, 05 Nov 2010 19:21:50 GMT

atomic sagebrush:
If you've ever been around kids of that age, they are HIGHLY concerned with what's for girls and what's for boys and it's mighty tough to overcome that.

Using a slightly different but sort of similar thought... The other day I had to quick run to the grocery store to pick something up. DS2 was in his pajamas (again... at 4 pm) and I gave up and said, "Fine. Wear your pajamas to the grocery store. I don't care anymore. We're leaving now." I totally gave up and let him choose.

He FREAKED out and said, "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! People will laugh at me! Wait!" And then he went and changed back into his clothes. Even at 4, he's aware of the element of social conformity. Did I spend several minutes talking him out of it because of "Who would laugh at a child wearing PJs to the grocery store at 4 pm?" No. Go change your clothes and get in the car and let's move on with life. Not everything has to be a social experiment or political in nature.

Or blogged.

So yeah. I'm skeptical too.