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  • 02-04-2007 7:37 PM

    TTC a girl -Extreme Gender Swaying *3 methods- GDC, SU, and TBM

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    This is at home high tech for ttc a girl.  Shawell made this with help from me from the baby center board. 

    There are 3 methods for ttc a girl with extreme gender swaying: Turkey Baster Method (TBM), Swim Up (SU) and Gradient Density Centrifuge (GDC).  All should be done with o+12.  GDC is always done with SU, and should be done with TBM and o+12.  SU is done with TBM at o+12.  The abbreviations for these would look like this:  GDC/SU/TBM, SU/TBM and just TBM.  All methods need to also incorporate diet, supplements, pH, ions and the rest of the stuff found in the swaying forum.

     

     **When sucking up the little spermies and "implanting" them into the V, you need to do thisslowly.  Not just a quick squirt.  The reasoning is that the force will break the tails off the sperm, thus paralyzing them from moving toward the goal.

     

    TBM (turkey baster method)

    Have your DH give you a "sample". catch it in a either a cup or in a non-spermicidal condom. add  lime to the sample to get it to a ph of 4-4.5 . mix gently by swirling around and let sit for a few minutes (never longer than 10).  then, use a needleless medicine syringe to insert the mixture into you. lay with hips raised or jump and dump. your choice!!! :) GL!!!

    many women use this method in conjunction with the supplements, hot showers, frequent samples from DH, replens/douche, and timing. 

    the number of drops of  lime you will use will depend on the size of your DH sample, the ph the sample starts out at and the final ph you end up with. most likely, this will be anywhere between 3 and 15 drops..... you will need to experiment and test with ph strips to determine your personal norm.  Place this in syringe and insert in vj and prop hips.  30 minutes later if your pH is 5 or higher insert 3-4ml of douche.  Keep checking your pH every half hour for up to 4 hours, lowering if the pH is 5 or higher.  Once at 4 hours add lime tampon to keep pH down for the next 8 hours.
     
    For douche you can use lime douche (50/50 lime to dissled water, pH 2) or you can use 7% vinegar douche (pH 4) you can find vinegar info here:
     

     
    you will need:

    clean cup 
    condom (optional)
    ph strips
    pickeling vinegar mix (or lime)
    needleless syringe
    sample from DH :)

    Swim Up

    This method is for ttc a dd.  The principle of this method is Y sperm thrives in the perfect pH (9-9.9.)  So if we provided that pH it will incourage the Y sperm over the X sperm to swim upwards.  The slowest are the majority of X-bearing sperm.  Semen is placed in the bottom of a test tube and the sperm swim upwards through an egg white-like substance, to the top of the tube.  By way of timing the Y-bearing sperm are selected and discarded.  Then the remaining bottom sperm (majority X-bearing sperm) are used for TBM.

    *If your egg whites sink please click here

     

    For this method you will need:-->-->
    • Test tube
    • Incubator (approx 99F/37C) -->-->
    • Microscope (best magnification between 100x - 300x) -->-->
    • 1 Pasteurized REAL chicken egg (use WHITES only) -->-->
    • Pasteurized powdered egg whites (from box) -->-->
    • Bottled distilled water -->-->
    • 6 x medicine droppers (or 2, but wash very well in-between use)-->-->
    • Cup or condom for dh's sample -->-->
    • pH strips
    • pickel vinegar-or lime (for TBM & douche)
    • Optional: Replens, small amount every 3 days-->-->

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    Egg White Mix Recipe:

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    First check real EW pH.  If it is less than 10 then you don’t need to do this. ….Using a fork gently mix: WHITE ONLY from 1 PASTEURIZED CHICKEN EGG + 1/2 teaspoon of REAL EGG WHITE POWDER + 1/2 teaspoon of DISTILLED WATER.  pH of this mixture should be 9. -->-->

     

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    The Method:

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    Step 1:  Dh to DTD in a cup or condom.

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    Step 2:  Place semen in bottom of test tube - note the measurement.

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    Step 3:  Gently place an equal amount of egg white mixture on top of semen in test tube (ie, 2mls of egg white solution, if 2mls of semen).  This should remain floating on top of semen.

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    Step 4:  Place test tube in incubator at a 45 degree angle (temp in incubator should be approx 99F/37C, you may have to put a light towel around base it to reach this temp but do NOT go over 100F/37.77C as this will slow the sperm down).  *Take note of time, or set a timer for 1 hour.

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    Step 5:  Douche a small amount lime & water (usual recipe is 1 tbsp of each) using a medicine dropper or douche bottle.

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    Step 6:  After 1 hour, use a medicine dropper to suck up any sperm at the top of the tube, aswell as ALL of the egg white mix.  These portions contain a small amount of very fast X-bearing sperm, as well as majority of Y-bearing sperm.  You may want to check with a microscope that these are the fast swimmers.  Discard these portions.

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    Step 7:  Using a different medicine dropper, suck up the remaining contents of the test tube and transfer to a clean cup.  This should be ONLY semen (no egg white mix).  This portion is to be kept and used for TBM.

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    Step 8:  You may want to now double check that the last portion, which you should only have semen remaining, has the slowest sperm using a microscope.  Make sure you don't mix these up with the portion above! 

     

    Step 9:  Add lime juice one drop at a time to the semen to create a pH of 4.5 - 5.5.  Gently 'swish' to combine the two liquids.  

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    Step 10:  Using a different medicine dropper, insert the splime whilst lying down with hips tipped slightly. 

     

    Gradient Density Centrifuge 

    This method is for ttc a dd.  The principle of this method is that the X-bearing sperm are heavier than the Y-bearing sperm, due to more DNA.  Using the G force of the centrifuge, a higher ratio of the X-bearing sperm will sediment in the bottom of the test tube, after being through each layer of the 3 step Gradient Density (sucrose solution). 

    For this method you will need:

    • Centrifuge
    • Test tube with stopper/lid (2 required if you have a centrifuge that needs balancing - ie, more than one position for the tube)
    • Bottled distilled water
    • Caster sugar, or a fine grade of sugar
    • Cup or condom for dh's sample
    • 3 x medicine droppers
    • 1 needless syringe OR douche bottle (for douching)
    • Bottled lime juice
    • pH strips
    •  Microscope (best magnification between 100x - 300x)
    •  Insert Replens or Rephresh (finger tip amount) every 3 days

    Sucrose Recipes:

    50% solution = 3 tablespoons & 1 teaspoon of SUGAR + 3 tablespoons & 1 teaspoon of DISTILLED WATER. 

    45% solution = 3 tablespoons of SUGAR + 3 tablespoons & 2 teaspoons of DISTILLED WATER.

    40% solution = 2 tablespoons & 2 teaspoons of SUGAR + 4 tablespoons of DISTILLED WATER.

    ** Dissolve each solution in a cup, which is held in a bowl of hot water.  You may need to stir each solution until it is completely dissolved.  The solutions should be CLEAR when completed.

    The Method:

    Step 1:  Dh to DTD in a cup or condom.

    Step 2:  Layer the test tube with sucrose solutions.  *These solutions should be warmed to body temperature.*  First put the 50% solution on the bottom (0.25mls), then gently place the 45% solution on top of this (0.25mls), and then the 40% solution as the top layer (0.25mls).  You should see a fine line between each layer.

    Step 3:  Put the cup or condom of semen in a basin of warm water.  Wait for the semen to liquify.

    Step 4:  Place the liquefied semen on top of the sucrose solutions in the test tube. 

    Step 5:  Centrifuge for 20 - 30 minutes, until there is sperm sediment in the bottom of the test tube.  You will see the sperm seeping it's way down each layer like "little ray's of sunshine" (if you check every 5 - 10 minutes).

    Step 6:  Using a medicine dropper, remove the top semen aswell as 1 or 2 layers of the sucrose solution (leaving only the 50% solution with sperm sediment if you choose to Swim up only the bottom layer, OR 45% & 50% solutions with sperm left if you choose to swim up the bottom 2 layers).  **Please note that using the bottom 2 layers will give you more sperm but also a slightly less concentration of X sperm.  Discard these top layer/s.  Optional:  You may wish to check a droplet of this discarded layer/s under the microscope. They will appear very fast swimmers.

    Step 7:  Do swim up (see method above) *If your egg whites sink please click here

    Step 8:  Do TBM (see method abvoe)

     

    ***Spinning to Stress was removed from this list because there were no studies to back it up.   If you want info for ss just look further down this thread and I have posted it there.-->-->

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  • 02-04-2007 8:01 PM

    Re: At home high tech for ttc a girl

    Ok, how much research/success is behind these methods??  is this just something that someone thought up??  it sounds good though!

    also where do i buy a centrifuge??  i don't even know really what a centrifuge is... lol. 

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  • 02-04-2007 8:10 PM

    Re: At home high tech for ttc a girl

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    momof2boys:

    Ok, how much research/success is behind these methods??  is this just something that someone thought up??  it sounds good though!

    also where do i buy a centrifuge??  i don't even know really what a centrifuge is... lol. 

    lol you really should talk to the baby center group.  But we found over 20 current studies for this and there is a group of women ttc this way.  One lady did do spin to stress with lime and got a girl.  Some got there centrifuges from ebay but most got theres from toys are us for 50$

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  • 02-04-2007 8:18 PM

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    i just did a search on toyrus.com for microscope & centrifuge, but nothing came up for centrifuge.  i will have to check out the other site, too.  i had no idea about all this stuff u could do to try to sway~ it's crazy!!
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  • 02-04-2007 8:31 PM

    Re: At home high tech for ttc a girl

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    momof2boys:
    i just did a search on toyrus.com for microscope & centrifuge, but nothing came up for centrifuge.  i will have to check out the other site, too.  i had no idea about all this stuff u could do to try to sway~ it's crazy!!

    Here is the link for the centerfuge they use :

    http://www.hammacher.com/publish/72523.asp?promo=Children

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  • 02-05-2007 5:09 PM

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    Not sure what a centrifuge is, here is a link: 

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Centrifuge

    I had no idea what they were, so google searched for info.

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  • 02-05-2007 9:21 PM

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    i had my DH read all this and he thought it was CRAZY!!  LOL  i told him i don't care how crazy it is, if it gets you the gender u want!!

    but i don't know if i want to spend the money on the centrifuge, microscope, etc...  i know not much IF it gets u the gender of your dreams.  i've just gotten really cheap lately as we're trying to pay down our credit cards!  who isn't i guess?  lol  if I DID get a girl, i think we'd go broke for sure with me buying her stuff  ; P

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  • 02-05-2007 10:52 PM

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    I would have never guessed that we would be willing to go so extreme.  But in the end we had to say we did all we could.  And we felt that it was part of our 'path'.  So what I'm guess I'm trying to say is , no mater what you choose to do, you need to be confidant in your attempt so that you have no regrets.

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  • 02-15-2007 8:40 PM

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    Reddcin~

    is it really best to get a microscope 100-300X?  what about going higher??  i'm thinking about getting one so I can "check" on the spermies after adding lime, lol.  that is if i don't get a BFP soon, which i'm not going to hold my breath for.

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  • 02-15-2007 9:36 PM

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    momof2boys:

    Reddcin~

    is it really best to get a microscope 100-300X?  what about going higher??  i'm thinking about getting one so I can "check" on the spermies after adding lime, lol.  that is if i don't get a BFP soon, which i'm not going to hold my breath for.

    alice

    Yup you can't go higher because the sperm are to large.  You will zoom right past them.

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  • 02-16-2007 11:22 AM

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    really i would think that the more magnification the better, since they're sooooo tiny!!?!  so you could really see the sperm pretty well with that magnification??  well then I guess a toy one from Toys R Us it is, LOL.
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  • 02-16-2007 12:05 PM

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    momof2boys:
    really i would think that the more magnification the better, since they're sooooo tiny!!?!  so you could really see the sperm pretty well with that magnification??  well then I guess a toy one from Toys R Us it is, LOL.

    Yup on my microscope I tried using the higher zoom and you zoom right past them.  They are bigger than I thought they would be.  My dh complaint is you can't see the tails to well but you can tell how they are swimming.  You also need a colored back ground to see them but that comes attached to the microscope.

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  • 03-16-2007 11:00 AM

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  • 03-19-2007 9:42 PM

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  • 03-24-2007 7:48 AM

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    Check out the first post.  There have been some more at home highly technical methods added Happy  LOL

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