There are two methods for ttc a boy:  Modified swim up and TBM:

**When sucking up the little spermies and "implanting" them into the V, you need to do this slowly.  Not just a quick squirt.  The reasoning is that the force will break the tails off the sperm, thus paralyzing them from moving toward the goal.

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Modified swim up for ttc a boy:

The principle of this method is Y sperm thrives on the perfect pH (8-9.9.)  So if we provided that pH it will encourage the y sperm over the x sperm.  Also that a small percentage of the X-bearing sperm are the fastest, followed by the Y-bearing sperm, then slowest are the majority of X-bearing sperm.  Semen is placed in the bottom of a test tube and the sperm swim upwards through an egg white-like substance, to the top of the tube.  By way of timing (first to arrive are discarded), the Y-bearing sperm (second to arrive) are selected and used for TBM.

 

 

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For this method you will need:-->-->

• Test tube -->-->
• Incubator (approx 99F) -->-->
• Microscope (best magnification between 100x - 300x) -->-->
• Instead cup -->-->
• 1 Pasteurized REAL chicken egg (use WHITES only) -->-->
• Pasteurized powdered egg whites (from box) -->-->
• Bottled distilled water -->-->
• 2 x medicine droppers -->-->
• Cup or condom for dh's sample -->-->
• pH strips -->-->
• Baking soda douche + douche bottle or needleless syringe

Egg whites pH need to be 9-9.9.  If it is more than 9.9 it will kill sperm.  So please read the egg white mix recipe below.  If it is less than 9 it will not work well to sort sperm.  Buy several different brands of eggs to find which one has the best pH.  To raise pH you wash egg shell and store in fridge for 2 weeks in a glass bowl.  There is no other way to raise pH of egg whites (baking soda will not raise pH high enough, sorry)

 

*If your egg whites sink please click here

 

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Egg White Mix Recipe:-->-->

First check real EW pH.  If it is less than 10 then you don’t need to do this. ….You can use preseed to lower pH to a 9, or if you dont have that you can use powedered egg whites: Using a fork gently mix: WHITE ONLY from 1 PASTEURIZED CHICKEN EGG + 1/2 teaspoon of REAL EGG WHITE POWDER + 1/2 teaspoon of DISTILLED WATER.  pH of this mixture should be 9. 

The pH of the egg whites is extremely important.  If your egg whites don't have a pH between 9-9.9 then you either need to lower the pH (if it is a 10) or use a different egg (even if it is unpasteurized- salmonella is found in the yolk)

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Baking Soda Douche Recipe: -->-->

Dissolve:  2 tablespoons of BAKING SODA + 1 liter of warm WATER.  Let solution sit for 10 minutes before use.  -->-->

The Method:-->-->

Step 1:  Dh to DTD in a cup or condom.-->-->

Step 2:  Place semen in bottom of test tube-note the measurement.-->-->

Step 3:  Gently place an equal amount of egg white mixture on top of semen in test tube (ie, 2mls of egg white solution, if 2mls of semen).  This should remain floating on top of semen.-->-->

Step 4:  Place test tube in incubator at a 45 degree angle (temp in incubator should be approx 99F, you may have to put a light towel around base it to reach this temp but do NOT go over 100F as this will slow the sperm down).  *Take note of time, or set a timer for 1 hour.-->-->

Step 5:  Douche a small amount of the above Baking Soda + Water Recipe using a medicine dropper or douche bottle.-->-->

Step 6:  After 1 hour, use a medicine dropper to suck up a small portion (approx 20% or 0.4mls, if total was 2mls egg white used) off the TOP of test tube.  Looking under the microscope, these should be the 'super-fast' X-bearing sperm (if no sperm are found in this very top, then take another portion until the fastest sperm are detected).  Discard this portion.-->-->

Step 7:  Using a different medicine dropper, suck up the next 'section' of mixture (rest of egg white mix).  Looking under the microscope, these sperm should appear fast (just use a little for the microscope.)  These are majority Y-bearing sperm.  Keep this portion.  Only keep Egg white mix to insert, Semen will not be used.-->-->

Step 8:  You may want to now double check that the last portion, which you should only have semen remaining, has the slowest sperm.  Make sure you don't mix these up with the portion above!  Discard these slow swimmers.   -->-->

Step 9:  Optional: Insert a small amount of EW to coat your cervix and surrounding area.  This is highly recommended if there is a lack of ewcm.  -->-->

Step 10:  Gently transfer the sperm/egg white mix into the 'instead cup'.  Secure the cup around your cervix (this can be left for up to 12 hours, then removed). 

 

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TBM for boy This method is for ttc a ds.  The principle of this method is that the Y sperm thrive in an alkaline environment.  By artificially creating this environment the theory is that the Y sperm will become more energized and strengthened by using the perfect pH.  This will give the Y sperm an advantage over the X sperm. 

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For this method you will need:-->-->

• Instead cup -->-->
• 1 Pasteurized REAL chicken egg (use WHITES only) -->-->
• Pasteurized powdered egg whites (from box if pH of egg isn’t right) -->-->
• Bottled distilled water (if pH of egg isn’t right) -->-->
• Cup or condom for dh's sample -->-->
• pH strips -->-->
• Baking soda douche + douche bottle or needleless syringe -->-->

Egg White Mix Recipe:-->-->

First check real EW pH.  If it is less than 10 then you don’t need to do this. ….Using a fork gently mix: WHITE ONLY from 1 PASTEURIZED CHICKEN EGG + 1/2 teaspoon of REAL EGG WHITE POWDER + 1/2 teaspoon of DISTILLED WATER.  pH of this mixture should be 9. 

The pH of the egg whites is extremely important.  If your egg whites don't have a pH between 9-9.9 then you either need to lower the pH (if it is a 10) or use a different egg (even if it is unpasteurized- salmonella is found in the yolk)

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Baking Soda Douche Recipe: -->-->

Dissolve:  2 tablespoons of BAKING SODA + 1 liter of warm WATER.  Let solution sit for 10 minutes before use. 

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The Method:-->-->

Step 1:  Have dh ingest caffeine one hour before sample is given -->-->

Step 2: .Douche one hour before TBM-->-->

Step 3: . If no ewcm apply ew

Step 4:  Dh to DTD in a cup or condom-->-->

Step 5. Place semen in bottom instead cup-->-->

Step 9:  : Gently place an equal amount of egg white mixture on top of semen in instead cup-->-->

Step 10 Put in instead cup and leave for 90 minutes.  Try to O as often as possible before and after instead cup is inserted.

 

Wow, you are like a true scientist!  lol  is there a method that is this involved for TTC a girl that u could post??  maybe just taking the top layer of the "super x" would work??  i'd be scared though i wouldn't do this accurately enough and suck up a bunch of y's!!  i'm getting more & more interested in TBM lately reading this board/site.

thanks :)

momof2boys:

Wow, you are like a true scientist!  lol  is there a method that is this involved for TTC a girl that u could post??  maybe just taking the top layer of the "super x" would work??  i'd be scared though i wouldn't do this accurately enough and suck up a bunch of y's!!  i'm getting more & more interested in TBM lately reading this board/site.

thanks :)

Actually there is! But shawell and I came up with it on the other board and the girl part is more of her thing.  I can post it but you should talk to her about it.

Who is Shawell??  I'd love it if you would post it, and also I would not mind talking to "Shawell" about it.  :)

momof2boys:

Who is Shawell??  I'd love it if you would post it, and also I would not mind talking to "Shawell" about it.  :)

Shawell is a poster on the babycenter board.  I posted the info your looking for in this forum called at home high tech for a girl

Here is the link to the incubator I have:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Chick-Bator-Mini-Incubator-Hatch-Chickens-Great-4-Kids_W0QQitemZ140081463366QQihZ004QQcategoryZ3138QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem

And here is a link to the microscope I have:

http://www.toysrus.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2305349&cp=&sr=1&f=Taxonomy%2FTRUS%2F2254197&origkw=microscope&kw=microscope&parentPage=search

 

WOW.. I want to ask can you do the TBM and just add the pre-seed and baking soda douche to the sperm,put this in to the syringe and inseminate, just like the mixing the lime to the sperm when doing the TBM for a girl.                              

 

 

 

mummy2five:

WOW.. I want to ask can you do the TBM and just add the pre-seed and baking soda douche to the sperm,put this in to the syringe and inseminate, just like the mixing the lime to the sperm when doing the TBM for a girl.                              

 

 

 

I don't see why not.  Especially if you have no ewcm.  I think if I were to do this I would use real egg whites (with pH less than 10) because you want a high pH and pre-seed mix has a pH of 8.  I have found that if you find the freshest pasteurized eggs, that there pH is less than 10 but higher than 9.  But if you let them sit for a long time in the fridge or at the store, there pH goes past 10.  Of course you would need them to be room temps.  I would place the sperm at the bottom of the instead cup then put the egg whites on top. 

Reddcin:

mummy2five:

WOW.. I want to ask can you do the TBM and just add the pre-seed and baking soda douche to the sperm,put this in to the syringe and inseminate, just like the mixing the lime to the sperm when doing the TBM for a girl.                              

 

 

 

I don't see why not.  Especially if you have no ewcm.  I think if I were to do this I would use real egg whites (with pH less than 10) because you want a high pH and pre-seed mix has a pH of 8.  I have found that if you find the freshest pasteurized eggs, that there pH is less than 10 but higher than 9.  But if you let them sit for a long time in the fridge or at the store, there pH goes past 10.  Of course you would need them to be room temps.  I would place the sperm at the bottom of the instead cup then put the egg whites on top. 

Just thought I would add; you wouldn't want to leave it in for longer than 4-5 hours because you don't want those slow x swimmers to swim threw.

I've been reading over these methods closely, including the boy one out of curiosity.  Technically, couldn't this method ALSO be used to TTC a girl, b/c you would suck up the semen from the bottom (supposedly carrying majority X sperm) and NOT the egg white in the middle (supposedly carrying majority Y sperm)???

i mean of course you would alter things, like NOT having DH drink caffeine right before, and NOT using a baking soda douche, but rather an acidic douche for TTC a girl.  just a thought.

momof2boys:

I've been reading over these methods closely, including the boy one out of curiosity.  Technically, couldn't this method ALSO be used to TTC a girl, b/c you would suck up the semen from the bottom (supposedly carrying majority X sperm) and NOT the egg white in the middle (supposedly carrying majority Y sperm)???

i mean of course you would alter things, like NOT having DH drink caffeine right before, and NOT using a baking soda douche, but rather an acidic douche for TTC a girl.  just a thought.

Yes you could use this to do that.  The other ladies on the other forum just like sperm spinning better.  After an hour in the incubator you would discard all the egg white sperm mix and only use the semen.  Making sure not to touch the sides of the test tube because y sperm tend to stick to the sides.

Thanks alot for that info Reddcin, Looks like thats what will be my attempt for next month, as AF showed today .     

 

 

 

mummy2five:

Thanks alot for that info Reddcin, Looks like thats what will be my attempt for next month, as AF showed today .     

 

 

 

Bummer that is came but how exciting for you new plan!  Let me know if you have any questions.

I will thanks!!!!!

 

 

 

 

Reddcin I was looking at the Ericsson web site and it was saying how with their method the boy sperm tend to swim DOWN, but i'm sure this is a different method than yours.  i was trying to get more info on their method but was having trouble finding it.  even if it's a different method though, i thought since the X sperm are a bit heavier, that even with their method the boys would swim up & the girls down.  i'm sure you know about this than me, but it kind of threw me off.