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  • 08-19-2008 6:58 PM

    Warning [!] Tips for those using the Cue II / Ovacue!!

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    Ovacue / Cue II Basics – Almost Everything You Need To Know 

    Okay ladies Jojo and Michaela have come up with a section for all of the Cue II / Ovacue users out there!  Some  of this information is pulled directly from their website but most of the information is based from our experience using these monitors.
     For swaying purposes you need to purchase the Cue II.  We recommend this because the Ovacue can confuse most girls and it is easier to use.  Please note that the Cue II and the Ovacue do the same thing the Ovacue just does the work for you.  IT IS ALSO A MUST THAT YOU PURCHASE THE VAGINAL SENSOR.  This sensor is what confirms that you have ovulated or are currently ovulating.   How the monitor works. (From www.zetek.net)
    Zetek discovered and patented the Electrolyte Method™ for predicting ovulation. In studies overseen by the National Institutes of Health, Cue products using the Electrolyte Method have been shown to predict ovulation with 98% accuracy.
    Learn more about the OvaCue Fertility Monitor. Throughout your monthly cycle, your body retains or discards varying amounts of minerals like sodium and potassium (electrolytes). The OvaCue® Fertility Monitor tracks the changes in these electrolytes in your saliva over time and processes this information to precisely define your time of peak fertility. About a week before ovulation, a high point in the salivary readings of electrolytes is reached, corresponding to the release of the dominant follicle (ovum) and the Cue Peak measured by the OvaCue. This is what allows the OvaCue to provide an accurate prediction of ovulation several days in advance. A few days after the Cue Peak, the luteinizing hormone (LH) in the blood increases and then decreases very sharply over a period of 24 hours (the LH surge). As LH reaches its peak in the blood, there is a definite change in the reproductive tract. Mucus secretion increases, and the electrolyte content of the mucus changes. Measured by the Cue vaginal sensor, this drop and subsequent rise in electrolyte readings gives positive confirmation of ovulation and marks the end of your fertile window.   How to use the Oral Sensor
    I won’t go into great detail here but here are a few tips on how to use the sensor:
    • You must start using the sensor by Day 2 of your cycle
    • You MUST TAKE YOUR READING EVERYDAY with a 2 hour variance!!  So if you wake up at 7:00am usually but you wake up at 9:00am one day it is okay to do you reading then.  As long as it is in the 2 hour window but no more than 30 minutes after waking.
    • Try not to vary your salt intake too much.  If you are on the girl/boy diet and consume a lot/little of salt just make sure you stay consistent.  Consistency is the most important so if you normally eat a lot of salt keep it that way and vice versa.
    • You should not eat, drink or smoke before you use the oral sensor.  This will mess up your reading for the day and therefore it will not be an accurate reading.
    • You must take your reading within 30 minutes of waking up.  If you do not wake up at the same time everyday I recommend setting an alarm and take your reading and then go back to sleep.  This will keep everything consistent thus making it easier to interpret your readings.
    • I want to repeat that YOU MUST TAKE YOUR READINGS EVERYDAY!!
    • DO NOT TAKE MORE THAN ONE READING PER DAY
    How to use the Vaginal Sensor
    Here are some tips for the vaginal sensor!!  And a little info about it from zetek.net.
    The OvaCue Vaginal Sensor measures electrolyte changes in vaginal mucus, just as the oral sensor measures electrolytes in saliva. With these measurements, it confirms your LH surge, which usually happens the day before ovulation and marks the change from estrogen to progesterone dominance, indicating ovulation has occurred. While the vaginal sensor is not required for predicting ovulation, most of our customers elect to purchase one. If you are uncertain about whether you are ovulating, the vaginal sensor will give you a clear answer. It also gives you the added confidence that the OvaCue is indeed predicting your date of ovulation accurately. Finally, by confirming ovulation it clearly marks the end of your fertile period (when you can no longer get pregnant).
    • YOU MUST TAKE YOUR READINGS EVERYDAY within 2 hours of your normal time starting with the first day of no blood from AF.   So if you normally take your reading at 7:00pm then you can take it anywhere from  lets say 7-9pm.
    • The vaginal reading must be taken any time after you have been awake and walking around for ATLEAST 2 hours.  The reason for this is so that your cervical mucous has time to come down into the vj to be accurately measured.
    • A tip that I have found helpful when inserting the vaginal sensor is to insert it all the way until you reach your cervix, pull back SLIGHTLY and pull the end of the wand up slightly.  I also will sometimes just twirl it around in there in a circle motion so I make sure I get the CM on the sensor.
    • Replens, Refresh, and douches do not affect the reading as long as they are done 8 hours prior to using the sensor. 
    • You should wait to use the sensor until AT LEAST 8 hours after you BD.  This way the semen does not affect the reading.
    • DO NOT TAKE MORE THAN ONE READING PER DAY

    What to look for in these readings.The readings can be confusing but after you get the hang of it this is one of the easiest monitors to use.  The first thing that you are going to look for is a Cue Peak.  The Cue Peak is the beginning of the ovulation process in started selecting a follicle.  As a general rule of thumb you can expect to ovulated anywhere from 5-7 days after your last Cue Peak.  If you have longer cycle you may get more than one Cue Peak in a cycle so you should go by the last Cue Peak to determine O Day.  A Cue Peak will be a high oral reading followed by 2 days of lower readings.  The 1st lower reading needs to be a drop of at least 12% and the 2nd lower reading just needs to be lower than the high Cue Peak reading 2 day prior. Here is a guide that you can use as well...

    When your cue peak is on day 2-3……….you will O on day 12
    When your cue peak is on day 4-5.........you will O on day 13

    When your cue peak is on day 6-7.........you will O on day 14

    When your cue peak is on day 8-9.........you will O on day 15

    When your cue peak is on day 10-11.....you will O on day 16

    When your cue peak is on day 12-13 ....you will O on day 17

    When your cue peak is on day 14-15 ....you will O on day 18
     

    Once you have a Cue Peak you will start to look for your Vaginal Low.  This is a number that will be one of the lowest numbers that you have had all month.  Some girls will get low numbers early on and they will begin to rise and then fall again.  This low number indicates that you will O 1 to 2 days later.  This can vary from girl to girl so you need to figure out YOUR pattern.   After that vaginal low reading your number will spike back up as indicating the Vaginal Rise or a high reading.  This high reading should be close to any high reading that you have had in your cycle.  For example 105 to 243 indicates a spike and that you are currently O’ing or will O later that day or the following day again depending on your pattern. 

    Girls Doing O+12!!!
    When doing an O+12 attempt we suggest that you take your vaginal readings in the morning this way you can catch the surge earlier (we are just assuming this it has not been proven).  Remember that is 2 hours after you are up and moving around.  Once you have confirmed O with the Vaginal Rise reading you will start to watch for the change in CM.  Once the shift happens then you can attempt at that time.  Some girls BD the early morning hours the next day after they confirm O and that seems acceptable as long as you have noticed the shift in CM.
    Sample Readings
    Cycle Day           Oral               Vaginal

    1                      133                n/a

    2                      148                n/a

    3                      117                n/a

    4                      86                 n/a

    5                      126                273

    6                      113                310

    7                      136                259

    8                      108                256

    9                      116                316

    10                     124                238

    11                     114                262

    12                     106                255

    13                     115                201

    14                     128                314

    15                     119                297

    As you can see there is a Cue Peak on CD2 and CD7 so I can assume that this person is going to O on Day 14.  With the vaginal sensor this is confirmed with a vaginal low on Day 13 with a large spike on CD14. Hopefully this will help everyone understand what is going on with their readings and their cycle.  This monitor is very accurate and I trust it over all other monitors when used properly.  If you would like to pinpoint O then I would suggest using all the methods that you can to detect O.  All signs, symptom, and readings need to line up for it to be a true O.  If you get a vaginal rise reading and you don’t have O symptoms most likely it is a fake surge and you need to watch closely for the real deal. If you have any questions please post or you can send a PM to jojogirl or Michaela and we should be able to help you out. HOWEVER WHEN IN DOUBT ALWAYS CONTACT ZETEK!!!

    Clomid Users – Ovacue / Cue II (from www.zetek.net)
    Clomid is commonly used to induce ovulation.  Ovacue readings during a treatment cycle with this drug will be very similar to readings in a a natural cycle except for very low vaginal readings during and shortly after the time medication is taken.  These vaginal low readings should not be confused with ovulation.  Vaginal readings may rise slightly, soon after you stop the medication.  They will drop again to the Vaginal Low 4 to 7 days after the Cue Peak.  Oral readings are not affect by Clomid excpept that the Cue Peak does not occur during the first two days of Clomid treatment.  Therefore, when you take Clomid on days 5-9, expect to see your Cue Peak on or after day 7.

    If you are using the Ovacue you can go to the “Medication Used” section and enter the first day that you are taking Clomid.

     

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  • 08-19-2008 7:13 PM

    Re: Tips for those using the Cue II / Ovacue!!

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    Awesome Ladies! Great job. Thank you.

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  • 08-19-2008 7:38 PM

    Re: Tips for those using the Cue II / Ovacue!!

    THANKYOU!!!!

    Michaela:
    You must start using the sensor by Day 2 of your cycle
    Can you start taking it on CD1 and every day all throughout your cycle as well? I just got my monitor today so I will be starting on CD3. Is that ok?

    Michaela:
    when inserting the vaginal sensor is to insert it all the way until you reach your cervix, pull back SLIGHTLY
    Do you pull back out of the V?

    Also, do you insert both sensors BEFORE turning it on? And can you still take vaginal readings while spotting or bleeding light? My AF lasts for quite some time and I'm afraid it will mess with my numbers!

     




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  • 08-19-2008 8:32 PM

    Re: Tips for those using the Cue II / Ovacue!!

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    THANKS LADIES!  You might want to add a section how Clomid can affect the readings...does the Cue II have a "Meds Taken" setting?  I know the Ovacue does and the manual explains what to expect readings to do when taking Clomid...just a thought!

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  • 08-19-2008 8:35 PM

    Re: Tips for those using the Cue II / Ovacue!!

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    Another thought...can someone make this a sticky or maybe move to the FAQ's forum?  Seems that there are a LOT more of us buying this monitor and it would be great to be able to find this as easily as possible.

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  • 08-19-2008 8:47 PM

    Re: Tips for those using the Cue II / Ovacue!!

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    rebirtha:
    Can you start taking it on CD1 and every day all throughout your cycle as well? I just got my monitor today so I will be starting on CD3. Is that ok?
     

    Yes you can start it on CD1 you should always start by CD2 if possible.  You should be fine with starting on CD3 but some people will have a Cue Peak that early so that is why they say to start by CD2.

    rebirtha:
    Do you pull back out of the V?

    No you definitely leave the sensor in your vj while doing the reading.

    rebirtha:
    Also, do you insert both sensors BEFORE turning it on? And can you still take vaginal readings while spotting or bleeding light? My AF lasts for quite some time and I'm afraid it will mess with my numbers!
     

    That is up to you.  I just know that with the Ovacue it will ask if you are ready to take the reading but I always get everything into position before I turn the monitor on and then take my reading.  You only use one sensor at a time.  So you take your oral reading and then later in the day you take your vaginal reading or whatever time you decide to do your reading.

    HotMaMa:

    THANKS LADIES!  You might want to add a section how Clomid can affect the readings...does the Cue II have a "Meds Taken" setting?  I know the Ovacue does and the manual explains what to expect readings to do when taking Clomid...just a thought!

    Great catch I will add that!!!  The Cue II DOES NOT have the option for Meds Taken.  I will post what both manuals say about Clomid.

    HotMaMa:

    Another thought...can someone make this a sticky or maybe move to the FAQ's forum?  Seems that there are a LOT more of us buying this monitor and it would be great to be able to find this as easily as possible.

    I think when Jojo gets back online she will make it a sticky I am not sure if it will be in FAQ or just in the general Gender Swaying forum. 

     

     

     

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    HSG 11/08 - Both tubes 100% blocked

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