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rachel idris

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In the FAQS, how ttc girl, you say:

"Finally there is a thread called ‘At Home High Tech’ which takes swaying a step further into ‘at home sperm sorting using TBM, Swim Up, or GDC.  It can all be found here:"

I just wanted you to know incase people can't find us it might be because our name on the forum list is Extreme Gender Swaying. 

Here is the spot where you refer to us http://www.ingender.com/cs/forums/t/3584.aspx, at the bottom of the page.

 


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Tamara

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Tamara

thanks!  its fixed

what i need to do is have people go through all the faq and look for mistakes/out of date info so I can fix it

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I am happy to do that. Do you also want editing on spelling and stuff?

 


 Baby Bear BoyJulian Robert 12/05 and Baby Bear BoyNoah Shea 12/07.


3/09 BFP 2nd month ttc using SU/TBM                      Heartbroken 5/09. 12 weeks. You are deeply missed.


Extreme Gender Swaying (SU/TBM)           Pray for all my girls to get BFP!!!


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Tamara

SWEET!  Can you look over all of egs faq including the boy info?  yes spelling, broken links and any info out of date

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I will do this soon. What is the best way? How should I get you the editted version? Just post it here?

Also do you want me to edit it myself and then just give you the revised version? Or do you want me to show you what is wrong and have you change it yourself?

 


 Baby Bear BoyJulian Robert 12/05 and Baby Bear BoyNoah Shea 12/07.


3/09 BFP 2nd month ttc using SU/TBM                      Heartbroken 5/09. 12 weeks. You are deeply missed.


Extreme Gender Swaying (SU/TBM)           Pray for all my girls to get BFP!!!


11DPO ....stick baby stick..

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just show me whats wrong and post it here

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Hi Tamara, sorry to interrupt the thread, but just wondering if there is something that could be added to the EGS FAQ? Just when it says to add the lime, can it be added that the lime needs to be room temp so as to not kill the sperm. I think there were quite a few of us that got caught out with that!

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i went and updated the ttc girl egs faq thread.  Not for spelling but for out of date info

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Tamara- I edited the below portion ( I didn't make it to the GDC). All my corrections are in red. I hope it was helpful. I can't correct EGS ttc boy because I don't know the details of ttc a boy.

 

This is Extreme Gender Swaying for ttc a girl.  Shawell made this with help from me from the baby center board.  PLEASE NOTE!  If you need a guarantee of a girl you NEED to do high tech. 

There are 3 methods for ttc a girl with extreme gender swaying: Turkey Baster Method (TBM), Swim Up (SU) and Gradient Density Centrifuge (GDC).  All should be done with o+12.  GDC is always done with SU, and should be done with TBM and o+12.  SU is done with TBM at o+12.  The abbreviations for these would look like this:  GDC/SU/TBM, SU/TBM and just TBM.  All methods need to also incorporate diet, supplements, pH, ions and the rest of the stuff found in the swaying forum.

 

 **When sucking up the little spermies and "implanting" them into the V, you need to do this slowly.  Not just a quick squirt.  The reasoning is that the force will break the tails off the sperm, thus paralyzing them from moving toward the goal.  However, you can not damage sperm dna with any of these methods.  They are safe to you and your baby.

 

TBM (turkey baster method)

Have your DH give you a "sample". catch it in a either a cup or in a non-spermicidal condom. add warm lime (body temp 98-99*f) to the sample to get it to a ph of 4-4.5 . mix gently by swirling around and let sit for a few minutes (never longer than 10).  then, use a needle-less medicine syringe to insert the mixture into you. Lay with hips raised or jump and dump. your choice!!! :) GL!!!

Aways use this with the 7 sway factors.

 
The number of drops of  lime you will use will depend on the size of your DH's sample, the ph the sample starts out at and the final ph you end up with. Most likely, this will be anywhere between 3 and 15 drops..... you will need to experiment and test with ph strips or a digital pH tester to determine your personal norm.  Place this in syringe and insert in vj and prop hips (or jump and dump).  30 minutes later if your pH is 5 or higher insert 1-3ml of douche.  Keep checking your pH every half hour for up to 4 hours, lowering if the pH is 5 or higher.  Once at 4 hours add lime tampon (tampon that has been soaking in lime douche not just lime juice) to keep pH down for the next 8 hours.
 
For douche you can use lime douche ( pH 2) or you can use 7% vinegar douche (pH 4) you can find vinegar info here:
 

 
you will need:

clean cup 
condom (optional)
ph strips
7% vinegar douche or lime douche
Lime douche tampon
needleless syringe
sample from DH :)

 

Swim Up

This method is for ttc a dd.  The principle of this method is Y sperm thrives in the perfect pH (9-9.9.)  So if we provided that pH it will incourage the Y sperm over the X sperm to swim upwards.  The slowest are the majority of X-bearing sperm.  Semen is placed in the bottom of a test tube and the sperm swim upwards through an egg white substance, to the top of the tube. The fasest sperm are selected and discarded.  Then the remaining bottom sperm (in theory majority X-bearing sperm) are used for TBM.

*If your egg whites sink please click here

 

For this method you will need:-->-->

  • Test tube
  • Incubator (approx 99F/37C) -->-->
  • Microscope (best magnification between 100x - 300x) -->-->
  • 1 Pasteurized REAL chicken egg (use WHITES only) -->-->
  • Bottled distilled water -->-->
  • 6 x medicine droppers (or 2, but wash very well in-between use)-->-->
  • Cup or condom for dh's sample -->-->
  • pH strips
  • 7% vinegar douche or lime douche (for TBM & douche)
  • Tampon
  • Optional: Replens or rephreph, small amount every 3 days-->-->

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Egg White Mix Recipe for only if your egg whites are a ph of 10+:

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First check real EW pH.  If it is less than 10 then you don’t need to do this. ….Using a fork gently mix: WHITE ONLY from 1 PASTEURIZED CHICKEN EGG  preseed.  pH of this mixture should be 9.  Don't add preseed too fast or the ph will drop too low.  Add a little, check pH then add a little more.-->-->

 

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The Method:

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Step 1:  Dh to DTD in a cup or condom.

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Step 2:  Place semen in bottom of warm test tube - note the measurement.

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Step 3:  Gently place an equal amount of egg white or egg white mixture on top of semen in test tube (ie, 2mls of egg white solution, if 2mls of semen) with a warm medicine dropperMake sure egg white is not cold so it does not kill sperm.  Place it in the middle of the test tube.  Do not touch semen with tip of medicine dropperEgg white should remain floating on top of semen.-->-->

Step 4:  Place test tube in incubator at a 45 degree angle (temp in incubator should be approx 99F/37C, you may have to put a light towel around base it to reach this temp but do NOT go over 100F/37.77C as this will slow the sperm down).  *Take note of time, or set a timer for 1 hour.

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Step 5:  Douche a small amount lime & water (usual recipe is 1 tbsp of each) or 7% vinegar douche using a medicine dropper or douche bottle.

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Step 6:  After 1 hour, use a medicine dropper to suck up any sperm at the top of the tube, aswell as ALL of the egg white mix.  These portions in theory contains a small amount of very fast X-bearing sperm, as well as majority of Y-bearing sperm.  You may want to check with a microscope that these are the fast swimmers.  Discard these portions.

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Step 7:  Using a different medicine dropper, suck up the remaining contents of the test tube and transfer to a clean cup.  This should be ONLY semen (no egg white mix).  This portion is to be kept and used for TBM.

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Step 8:  You may want to now double check that the last portion is mostly x-sperm.  Put one drop on the slide of your scope (make sure you have a slide cover on top of sample) and look at it under microscope. You should only have semen remaining. They should be the slowest sperm.  Make sure you don't mix these up with the portion above! 

 

Step 9:  Add lime juice one drop at a time to the semen in the cup to create a pH of 4.5 - 5.5.  Gently 'swish' to combine the two liquids.  

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Step 10:  Using a different medicine dropper, insert the splime whilst lying down with hips tipped slightly. Or add splime to a diva cup and insert into VJ.

 


 Baby Bear BoyJulian Robert 12/05 and Baby Bear BoyNoah Shea 12/07.


3/09 BFP 2nd month ttc using SU/TBM                      Heartbroken 5/09. 12 weeks. You are deeply missed.


Extreme Gender Swaying (SU/TBM)           Pray for all my girls to get BFP!!!


11DPO ....stick baby stick..

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rachel idris

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I just added a few more corrections to the instructions of SU.

 


 Baby Bear BoyJulian Robert 12/05 and Baby Bear BoyNoah Shea 12/07.


3/09 BFP 2nd month ttc using SU/TBM                      Heartbroken 5/09. 12 weeks. You are deeply missed.


Extreme Gender Swaying (SU/TBM)           Pray for all my girls to get BFP!!!


11DPO ....stick baby stick..

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I hope that was helpful.

The other thing I was thinking you could do is put in an explanation of how to raise the ph of our eggs. Maybe right under the part that talks about how to decrease the ph if your egg white is over 10.

You could let people know to wash their eggs and why (I never knew to do that until I read something you posted a few days ago), and put them on the counter to get them to room temperature for a few days and then heat them up on day of attempt. This would help a lot of people!

 


 Baby Bear BoyJulian Robert 12/05 and Baby Bear BoyNoah Shea 12/07.


3/09 BFP 2nd month ttc using SU/TBM                      Heartbroken 5/09. 12 weeks. You are deeply missed.


Extreme Gender Swaying (SU/TBM)           Pray for all my girls to get BFP!!!


11DPO ....stick baby stick..

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Tamara

are you sure its not in there already?

 

i just updated it again telling people not to heat in microcrowave

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It is not in the egs ttc girl section...would you have put it some where else?

I think it would go best right under the part about decreasing the ph:

http://www.ingender.com/cs/forums/t/5082.aspx

 


 Baby Bear BoyJulian Robert 12/05 and Baby Bear BoyNoah Shea 12/07.


3/09 BFP 2nd month ttc using SU/TBM                      Heartbroken 5/09. 12 weeks. You are deeply missed.


Extreme Gender Swaying (SU/TBM)           Pray for all my girls to get BFP!!!


11DPO ....stick baby stick..

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I added it

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