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The talks part three.. conclusion

When working on MSU I realized there was a problem.  You can not find Trojan condoms  that are non-latex condoms that done have lube. This was very concerning to me.  Buying a medical condom was very expensive.  So I emailed the Trojan company asking them about the lube, the pH and how it effects sperm.  They informed me that it does not effect sperm because there is not lube on the inside of the condom.  They said there condoms do not damage sperm.  The lube pH was neutral.  Great news for swayers!

Next I had to figure out the the instead cup.  Can they be reused?  Do they harm sperm?  Well I found out through the world health organizing that you can reuse instead cups for one entire af then throw them out.  Just wash them out when you take them out and pop them back in.  They are not made of Latex so they are safe for sperm.

Finally we were having trouble with pH strip from the pHion.  The top box and the bottom box wouldn't match.  What they told me was if one doesn't change but one does to read the one that does change.  If both change and do not match then you take the average of the two.  So since this is so confusing, I now recommend you get full range pH strips to tell you what box is correct. On the pHion strips.  I still like the pHion strips because they give you more exact

The talks part two

You can read the story of 0+12 here.  The inventor of o+12 use to post on bc many years ago.  She found a study and it made since to her.  This was before the 7 sway factors and she only did timing.  Based on o+12 alone she got her daughter.  She stayed around bc for a while before leaving.

When I was first looking into MSU and experimenting my first contact with a doctor was a complex one.  I was on the chat forum on ig here (it use to be for all members) when a doctor from E. came into the chat room.  This doctor was not happy that we were doing what they felt was E at home and not paying for it in a lab.  The the words of the doc:  how dare you sort sperm in your bathroom!  You should be forced to pay for such services.  Well at first I was shocked, but then I realized that a doc came, found me and confermeded what we were doing was sorting sperm!  It was working!  Later a different Doc from Ireland emailed me.  He had looked over all my research and all my steps.  This doctor was greatly impressed by our work and said it would work.  He didn't think the % is as good as the studies I posted but with the combo of all 7 sway factors he felt we would be MORE successful than E.  Finally a 3rd doctor looked over all the extreme methods and told me that they are all 100% safe, you can not damage sperm dna.  That no amount of playing with sperm can cause mc.

Finally I made fast Friends with a biologist the bc board.  There is way more info about this earlier in my blog.  She helped me to come up with  egs su/gdc and msu.  She really knows her stuff.

The talks part one

Someone suggested I discuss what was talked about with all the past people.  So I will label these by parts.  This is party one and will included the inventor of preseed, the acijell and vinegar study

  I cant really recall the year it was, but when preseed first came out, the inventor/doctor had a forum.  His forum was to handle questions about his product.  This was very fascinating to me so I posted several time.  We discussed the pH of the product, its reaction to sperm and its effect on swaying.  His first comment was he didn't know about swaying so he couldn't comment on that lol. He did say that the small test sample he did found to favor girls.  But 1 out of 4 people only turned in there surveys so the survey on this subject was not accurate.   His next one was a detailed explanation of the pH and how it works.  It was really fascinating!  He spent many years working out the perfect pH to keep all sperm alive the longest.  We talked about how some sperm can handle different levels of sodium and others can not.  In conclusion i think pre-seed only slightly sways for a boy, maybe by 1-3% mainly because the pH is around 7.  Do I think those ttc a girl should use it?  Nope.

  The inventor of aciell showed up on the baby center forums back when I was pg with dd2 so that had to be in 2005.  He saw the interest in swaying and thought of it as a money maker.  He posted here and their on the forum asking women questions then came up with his jell.  However he found he could not market for swaying (fda or something not allowing it) and discovered he could use it to lower pH for women who have repeat infections.  So he marketed it for that and dropped the swaying idea; however it was the same product.  Now in 2009 the product was recalled due to a error in manufacturing.  There has been no news if it will come back.

The vinegar study story is very long and complicated.  I wont go into much, but lets just say we don't see eye to eye.  I like his research and have imported parts of it into swaying.

History of At home swaying.. people I have talked to in the past

It thought this would be interesting..

here are the people I have talked to in the past about at home swaying:

1. the inventor of pre-seed
2. the inventor of acijel
3. the inventor of the vinegar study
4. the inventor of the tbm
5. the inventor of o+12
6. 3 doctors about MSU
7. a biologist about egs su/gdc/msu
8. Trojan condoms about non-latex condoms and the lube used on them
9. the instead cup company
10. the pHion company about pH strips (alkalive now called pHion strips)

Why I think life starts at implantation and not conception

First off Biblically everything I found in the Bible points to life starting in the womb.  I also studied animals and how they come about, then I also looked into cloning which does not require fertilization.  Then I dove deep into the studies on implanting and what comes of that.  Then I searched in the pro-life movement and found that an estimated 10-20% of people feel this way and there is a doc in the pro-life movement that is a embryologist who feels that life begins at implantation.  He wrote several papers that really make since to me.

2 things happens at implantation.  First as soon as the embryo touches the wall of the uterus it chemically changes and changes the body instantly to start sending out the pg single.  Also instantly the body immediately sends out fingers of blood vessels and blood immediately starts reaching that embryo.  There is also a ton of other things that indicate life at that moment of contact that the doc in the pro life movement goes into. 

Obsessed with ions

Ions are a balancing act.  You are constantly being bombarded with ions from every direction.  Your goal is to have more of one kind than the other (Depending on what you are swaying for).  I wonder how an ion meeter would effect a persons sway?  What would happen if they wore it all the time and saw there ions were dropping they would adjust it?  Hmmmmmmm

Something like this???

Odds of swaying

People keep asking me what are their odds for swaying.  What is the %?  Well first off, please remember, I am not a scientist.  I'm just a former teacher, now mother and Children's Director at our church.  The info I have is all from searching google schooler and finding the studies.  The studies aren't full proof.  Each study most likely has a studies somewhere that disagrees with it.  All studies  have found is either in the FAQ forum or in the gold forum. 

 So with that, here is the info I personally believe

According to studies the diet is 85%, the ions is 80%, pH is 80% minerals goes with diet, hormones is 80%, supplements go with minerals, and timing is about 60%.  The su/msu study says it is 85% and gdc is 7%. 

this is where my personal opinion comes in 

For a girl make sure the pH is 4-4.5.  With this assumption; If you were to do all 7 sway factors along with gdc/su at o+12 with tbm I think it is about 85-90%.  If you did su o+12 tbm I think its about 80-85%.  If you do all 7 sway factors at o+12 tbm I think 75-80% and just diet with all 7 sway factors at o+12 I think is 70-75%

For ttc a boy the closer you get the egg whites to 9.9 the better the % (over 9.9 kills sperm don't go below 9.0 pH for ew)  If you were to have the perfect pH of ew and if you were to do all 7 sway factors along with msu at o using an instead cup I think it is about 85-90%.  If you did tbm at o day with instead cup and all 7 sway factors I think its about 80-85%.  If you do all 7 sway factors with diet at o with instead cup  I think 75-80%.

Pre-ovulation tempatures and the effect on swaying

If you watch your temps for 4 cycles you will see 2 are the same range of temps,then one might be high and one might be low.  Those two that are the same are YOUR normal (no one has the same normal).  The cycle that is low is boy cycle due to hormones causing your temp to be low, the cycle that is high is your girl cycle due to hormones.  The only way to know how your cycle is doing is to know what your normal is. Temps are showing you how your hormones are responding. Also a warmer than normal cycle cause your pH to drop because heat lowers pH.  Just as a colder than normal cycle cause your pH to rise.  Yes, a boy can be conceived in girl zone and vice versa.  But it wont sway as well because your hormones aren't swaying well.  Remember, everything is linked together.

Deeper explanation of how food is chosen for the diets

*note, please read this 

Hormones:  studies find that when a man or women has certain hormones in their body they will have a certain gender.  No one really knows why, they just know it works

pH:  Studies find that when a mans or womens pH is high or low it will sway for boy or girl.  the reason is because it helps to energize or weaken certain sperm

minerals:  Studies find that when calcium, potassium, sodium or magnesium are in the semen or cm it can help certain sperm to capitate faster than others

ions: in food ions help with pH. certain foods and minerals have more + or - ions (ions only effect dh with food and minerals; moon does not effect it)

temp of food:  hot foods lower pH, cold foods raise pH

Each food is effected in some way by these things

examples: 
 red meat will raise testosterone, slightly lower pH, give lots of potassium, sodium, some cal and mag has + ions and if eaten cold will raise pH
Potatoes:  will raise testosterone, raise pH, is a power house in potassium and sodium, has no cal some ma, is +ions and when eaten as a potato chip will raise pH

Hormones

There are 3 main hormones when it comes to swaying (there are others as well for ttc but I'm not talking about those): Progesterone Estrogen and Testosterone. 

For ttc a girl you want:

Dw (darling wife) to have low estrogen, low testosterone, high progesterone (but not to high as it will delay O.
Dh (darling husband) to have low testosterone,and  high estrogen

For ttc a boy you want:

Dw to have high estrogen, high testosterone and low progesterone (not low in the 2ww however
Dh you want high testosterone, and low estrogen.

 There are supplements and drinks you can take to alter your hormones to sway for boy or girl.  These are listed in the FAQ section.  You also alter hormones by exercise (cardio girl, weights boy), and diet.

An interesting finding found in a Chinese study was that cycles have an average temp range.  Then, every now and they your pre-o temps will be higher than normal.  This would favor girl (means progesterone is higher).  Then every now and they your pre-O temps are lower than normal.  This would favor boy (means progesterone is low and estrogen is up).  So you will know your supplements are working if you can adjust your temps to either above or below your average for the gender you are ttc. I will go into a deeper explanation of this in another post

Those Crazy sperm

Here is info for sperm. 

Outside the body on a surface like a sink in a humid bathroom sperm can live up to 4 hours.  In an incubator at the perfect pH and temp they can live up to 48 hours.  In a glass container tucked into your bra they can live up to 24 hours.

In your vj the sperm swim into the cervix crypts.  In this crypts they can live in the perfect conditions (ewcm) at a max of 11 days (this is rare).  Average is 3-5 days.

Both x and y sperm have the same life span.  An 11 day old y sperm can live just as long as a 11 day old x sperm.

Now as for sperm speed, resilients, and size this is all debatable: 

Most scientist feel that x and y sperm have the same speed and resilients.  X sperm do have more dna and are slightly larger but this can not be seen on a scope- only micorsort can really tell the difference

Modified swim up scientist feel that y sperm are faster than x sperm and that x sperm swim in angles (which looks like circles on a scope).  They also feel that the 5% top swimmers are super x swimmers.  Studies for this is in the Gold section of ig.

My ultrasound

I thought I would post what it was like to find out you are having they baby we worked so hard for.  I kind of had a clue that it might be a boy when I posted an 11 week pic and CC said there was a boy nub (I didn't even know there was a nub on that pic!).  So when May came I was going to tell no one on ig about my ultrasound.  The reason for this is because I was getting asked threw pm's every day about it.  So  my birthday came and I had pre-set up our ultrasound for that morning.  I didn't tell any of our family; only dh knew.  The plan was to find out the sex, then go fishing and then go to my bday party that night and tell everyone then.  For IG I planed to tell everyone in code for the fun of it lol.  So dh and I dropped off the girls at my parents house and we were running behind and it was raining.  My mom thought it was so weird that we went rushing out the door to fish in the rain lol.  We get there only 3 minutes late and they bring us right in.  I lay up on the table and she says, before we start do you want to know the sex?  We both say yes.  As soon as the wand hit my tummy we saw it was a boy!  Be both teared up a little and she didn't say anything.  I said, is it a boy and she says yes!  She prints a pic right away for us and asks us how many girls we have lol.  After that we rush out and go fishing; all the while still in a daze.  After catching a bunch of fish we head to the balloon store and buy an 'its a boy' balloon.  This is when dh and I really realize its a boy!  We head to my bday party and walk in with the balloon.  MIL screams and hugs us.  Then when my parents come in they totally miss the balloon.  My dh has to point it out to my dad and my dad tells my mom to read the balloon!  LOL it sure was fun.  From there I go on the next 20 weeks to have about 30 or so more ultrasounds due to some high risk problems; and yes every time I asked for the boy shot!

Here is the post that I told ig

Seeking God for your plan

Many people ask me how to find a plan that is meant for them and how can God give it to you.  For me this isn't that complicated.  First off you need a personal relationship with Jesus.  Now this post isn't a preachy message for the "lost" rather an explanation how I found my plan.  See  I believe there is only one true God.  This God is full of love and compassion.  But there is a void between God and us; this void is sin.  Ya by now i have lost half of you because I sound  to much like 'church'.  Bear with me as I'm getting to the plan part..  In order for us to hear God clearly this void must be restored.  The only way to repair it is to accept the that we as a human race, as a person; are broken.  Face it, every where you look in the world you see bad people doing bad things.  Even good people aren't prefect.  But the great thing is that God has a fix to the communication break down!  Jesus!  He was on earth because God loves us so much that he HAD to fix our communication problems so we can see how much God loves us!  So the first step in finding Gods plan for you is having a direct line to God threw Jesus.  Jesus fixes this and all you have to do is ask Him.  Ask Him to over look and repair your brokenness; ask  Him to help you and that you are sorry for the things you do wrong and want to do right.  Ask Him to be the leader of your life and the planer of all things for you.  When you do this you can hear God directly.  He speaks in soft whispers and will guide you in your plan. See after dd2 came I started to dive deeply into the Bible to try and understand my plan. God TOLD me to go to the book of James (great book of the Bible by the way that talks about Faith).  Threw daily studding of these chapters God revealed to me my plan:  what supplements to take, what method to use; everything!  I have never heard God so clearly as I did while swaying for our son.  So there you go.. if you put your trust in God he WILL give you your plan one way or the other.

The big players and the history of egs

EGS started back when someone from AU thought about o+12 (history of o+12 is found on ig).  She successfully swayed for a girl.  The next person was on the determing sex board.  She figured out the lime/semen tbm.  I chatted with her a few times (sorry I cant remember her name, if someone does pleas pm me and I'll up date this post).  She successfully swayed for a girl as well.  Then one day I was research high tech methods all upset that I couldn't afford to do it.  Thats when I ran across a cow study about freezing sperm swaying for gender.  I made a post on the determing sex forum about it and Shawell (our resident biologist) joined in the fun.  With her help we came up with GDC/SU and Su, MSU.  She chose not to sway and moved on.  I on the other hand went with MSU and got our boy.   The next big player was Rev (from ig) and the other gals that helped with the diets.  Finally we have the ladies in the EGS forum working on the one main problem with su and msu: getting the ew to float.  Those ladies are a huge help as well.  All this started back in the end of 2007.

Further explanation of ions